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I think that in the real life it would be a matter of finding a space between cars and squeezing in to let it pass, but on the test they may fail you for something like "poor ahead planning" as you shouldn't make oncoming traffic to slow down or stop because of you - so what I'd do is that I'd slow down before I enter that narrow part of the street with cars parked on both side, checking if anyone is coming your way from the other side.... If they are already there, or approaching - I'd wait, if there is no-one there - I'd go trying to finish that part before anyone appears on the other side as they may enter the same part of the street and then slow down to let you squeeze to pass them - that would be your fault. I think it is unfair, but I guess that would be unlucky... At the same time, if the guy on the other side of that part of the street flushes you with headlights, giving you way - you better go, to avoid undue hesitation and creating traffic jam. This is all IMHO, can't guarantee that it is correct.

well done man, congrats ! Feeling great , eh ?

again, i'm no expert, just letting you know what i've recently been taught. You might want to check that distance from the junctions when pulling over, but i think thats what my instructor said.

Results from my Module 1 test report: Avoidance Ex. 56Kph, Emergency stop - 68Kph (500cc bike in 2nd gear is fast enough )

1. Yes 2. Yes 3. Yes 4. Don't, unless you are turning right or left. Treat them like T-junctions... 5. I woudn't as it would be a bit risky 6. Make sure you have enough space in front of you .... Mirrors, LH indicator, LH lifesaver, pull in, stop, cancel indicators, sort out gears (if needed), get into 1st gear, keep checking RH mirror, release clutch to biting point, RH lifesaver, if no traffic coming - RH indicator on, open throttle a bit, release clutch, let foot brake go, look ahead, go (last few things generally done quickly one after another )

congratulations !

Not quite sure if I understood you completely, but, normally, if you have a normal set of traffic lights and an "arrow" section, AFAIK you can STILL turn right if main green light is on, as long as you let the traffic pass.

Try Rescue Remedy (Thanks to Polecat on this one). Very nice stuff. Makes you cool like rock

It was a Module 2 test today for me... Arrived to my instructor's office an hour before the test time. Too shots of spray "Rescue Remedy" (POLECAT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for this one) on my tongue. "Ok, lets go for a test run". Hmm... Kwak ER-5 is a bit cold, should have warmed it up for a wee bit longer. Ok, relax and think. Got on the road, passed streets and cars. Traffic lights, turns.... Instructor: "Please park somewhere safe"... Ok, lets park here between cars... Instructor: "You have just failed your test!".... "Can't you see that you have parked too close to the junction...?" Oh sh*t, not on my test day... Ok Ok I'll pay more attention... F*ck F*ck F*ck !!! Ok, lets go , got on a motorway, roundabout is quite busy. Oops I stood for too long.... Instructor: "You should have gone then - that would be a minor for undue hesitation !" Hmmm... Last time I was too fast on going , so I suppose I'd rather get a minor than failing a test for slowing down oncoming car... Last straight part of a road, roundabout - Instructor "...Ride into the test centre and park right in that parking slot"... Ok. ok. This is it. Empty waiting room in the test centre... Pressure is on, I can count my heartbeat without checking my pulse... 3 shots of Rescue Remedy spray (Polecat, you are so damn nice ) Time is up, here we go. "Hi, nice to meet you, here is my documents..." (A wee grey beard and nice gear gives him away as THE BIKER-type examiner), can't waste my chance now... Ok, we are out, the radio is on, "yes, I can hear you". "Read that licence plate", no probs. Ok, "How do you check brakes liquid levels ?" Here... What do you tell your pillion ? Keep your feet on the pegs, lean with me , blah blah.... "Thanks, ok, lets go for a ride, I'll be giving you instructions loud and clear in a good time, blah blah blah....". Got on a bike. Started the engine. "When you ready, at the end of this road, I want you to turn left, at the end of this road please turn left"... Here we go, first gear, shoulder checks, let go the clutch.... Mirrors, shoulder check, indicator is on... Oops, some white van is passing, lets stop. Ok, Checks, on the road now... Ok it is 30Mph.... Keep the speed... Riding along the roads... Relax... Just relax, its is only a £75... Turning left, turning right, head, hands and feet are doing their routine. "Please pull over on the side of the road where it is convenient"... Ok Ok... aha, some parked cars, don't cut the trajectory, keep it steady, indicator, shoulder check... Stopped... Sh*t, there is a junction just ahead, but I'm not too close, thanks God. Sorting out gears..."...Please continue on the road when it is safe to do so" Ok... Right-shoulder check... There are cars coming.... Ok, wait, wait,... More coming... hehe... it is good as i'm wasting test's time... No more cars, mirrors, indicator is on, check the right shoulder, lets go... Streets, turns, one-way street, traffic lights (Both-shoulders-check, I remember you ... Nice and easy, relax, relax your arms, take a deep breath, thats it. ... Aha, he is gonna take us on the country road.... I know that road inside out I know this turn, steady, we are on the road.... Some fast straight lines where I can do 60mph, a few sharp corners for 2nd and even 1st gears.... Ok, here is a turn, now he is gonna tell me to turn into that road....Come on, it is gonna be too late.... No... NOOOO!!!! he is not gonna tell me to turn into that road as I'm already passing it... WTF ? We have never ever ridden that way, we ALWAYS turned there.... WTF ? Ok, I'm still riding on that country road... Ok, calm down, nothing happened. Bloody white van, why on Earth are you in front of me ? Can you go a bit faster ? B*gger, I don't want to overtake you as I don't know this road any further and the road is going over hills all the time, it is 50Mph... I hope he will not fail me for not overtaking .... "...At the roundabout please go straight ahead and then take the right turn, straight ahead on the roundabout and then take right turn..."... Aha, there is a roundabout ahead, I better slow down.... Checks, mirrors, indicator for turning right, let a few cars pass, lifesaver,... turning... I'm joining motorway... up to speed, right shoulder check, b*gger, another white van is driving in the left lane, the lay-by is not too long, better slow down, another shoulder check - van is moving to the right lane, I hope I didn't MAKE him do that as that *would* probably be a fault... INDICATOR!!!! F*ck ! Put it on, idiot... Still got some time, sh*t, examiner has had his indicator on for much longer.. That's it, I f*cked it up... bloody white van.... Oh well, lets ride it for pleasure now... Someone in front of me doing 65, right-hand shoulder check, indicator on, change lanes, overtake, leave some space left-hand shoulder check, return to the left lane... Oops, examiner uses left-turn indicator to return back... strange... "On the roundabout please take the turn on your right, take the 3rd exit..." Lets slow down, 4th, 3rd, 2nd...Bloody yellow lines, it feels like you are riding over a top of lots of wee traffic calming humps... Stopping... Ok, here is a gap in traffic... getting off that roundabout... up to speed... "Please turn left on the next roundabout, first exit"... Ok... down to 1st. Wait for the gap... Lets go... this must be it. He hasn't even asked me to do a hill start. "Please turn into the centre and park your bike in a parking slot. Keep your helmet on"... Oh well, at least this time I enjoyed it a bit, even went a bit over 70Mph while overtaking... Another 2 weeks, another £75... "Please come in, take off your helmet, and grab a seat"... Here is your radio belt... Ok, come on, just tell me... "I'm pleased to say that you have PASSED with one driver's fault"... CAN'T BELIEVE IT. I CANNOT BELIEVE IT. WOO-HOO... Thank you soo much !!!! "You approached that roundabout a bit too slow ..." (Heh, my instructor used to tell me that I was approaching roundabouts too fast ... "Please sign here, do you want me to send off your licence together with certificate ?" No, it is ok, I'll do it as I need another photograph put on it anyway... "Here is some leaflets about further training you may consider", Thanks sooo much. Can I ask you a question? "Yes, go ahead", is motorcycling your job or is it your hobby too ? "Yes, it is my hobby too" (I knew it !!!!).... "Here is your certificate. Good luck". My smiling face sold me out, so my instructor said "Congratulations ! You don't need a radio anymore. Just take the bike to my office." That was it. Lovely 3 minutes smooth ride... No-one is watching you... finally, Freedom ! Thanks to everyone on this site !

It is quite helpful to see some other learner going together with you as you can see how he/she rides and what he/she does (not), you'll hear instructor's marks and compare what needs to be done to what is actually done so you can apply that to your own riding... Very beneficial IMHO. My instructor charged me £20 per hour on Kwak ER-5, but I started training with him after I failed Mod 2 once and I changed my training company (which I think was very beneficial to me too, money-wise as well as they charged me £30 per hour)

Just back to work after 1/2 day in a lieu doing my second Mod 2 test attempt. Well, I passed it. One minor - a driver's fault as I was too slow on approach to a roundabout (I used to be too fast in the past ) i'll put more detailed post in Mod 2 experience topic a bit later on. THIS IS IT. I HAVE DONE IT. Thanks to everyone on this site, your help is much appreciated.

This is what I did on my Module 2 test that I have just passed. Nay warranties/guarantees that it is TOTALLY correct though, this is all IMHO and it worked AFAIK for me only as I cannot say for anyone else. 1. You don't indicate 2. You don't indicate 3. That is correct All-in-all, treat mini-roundabouts as T-junctions.

congrats man ! Please leave a post in Module 2 experiences topic !

Mod 1, eh ? I suppose you can fail it 5 times before you would get the feeling of failing Mod 2 (money-wise). Mod 1 is not hard. Just do observations for each maneuver and keep 500cc in second gear for swerve and Emergency stop. Easy.

The only thing to add is that you can get a roadworthy 125cc for like £500 or £600 - something like what i have on my avatar

Go for manual as automatic is for girls..... Really ? http://www.yakhnichmotorsport.ru/photos ... hoto/s2010

Congrats man. Good luck

guys/girls, can anyone suggest, if you are turning left or even right at a T-junction and the street you are turning in is full of parked cars and vans so you can't see clearly if anyone is coming from your left or right, should you just advance slowly until you see both sides (obviously leaving the "give-way" line behind your font wheel) or what ? Can you get any faults for doing that?

Car - 1 CBT - 1 Theory - 1 Mod 1 - 1 Mod 2 - 1, will be at least 2 26/10/2010... Yes, it is 2 for Mod 2

That's what I've been told on every test I've done (bike, car, rigid lorry, artic, bus, tracked, IAM), although the only test where I can recall actually encountering a mini-roundabout was my bike test and I didn't pick up any minors for junctions so I'm guessing it's right. cheers man.

(1) Huh? (2) If i've mis-read your question then i apologise, but i've answered it as i've interpreted. Incidently by "going straight on" i meant pulling onto the island, don't know why i put it like that so i apologise if it was misleading. (3) You asked for people's opinions; now it appears as if i was wrong to give mine? Why didn't you just title your post "question for a bike test examiner" if that's what you wanted? I don't know if you've taken my post as a personal dig (it was actually aimed at the instructor) but seriously, i find your attitude poor. You've come on a bike forum and asked for people's opinions on something an instructor should be telling you, not random members of the public. And when i (who passed my test 10 years ago (without failing and blaming my instructors incidently)) give my opinion/interpretation as requested, i get the sort of arrogant & dismissive response you posted above. How rude! Hmm, easy man... I didn't mean to offend you. In my view "Here is another example of different opinion" is not the same as "Here is another example of wrong opinion"... The question "Do we have any bike test examiners on this site ?" is not a dismissal of your personal opinion as the wrong one, but just a question to other members, if there are any examiners available to answer my questions... That was all. And I'm here to ask other people's thoughts and NOT to put mine as the final instance of truth as the idea behind is to work out something as close to truth as possible, hence the question for any examiners available. Anyway, if you take it personally, I do apologise, no offense intended. And thanks for your reply.

(1) Well technically I SHOULD do them on my test otherwise they'd fail me ? (2) I was talking about different thing (3) Here is another example of different opinion... Do we have any bike test examiners on this site ?

Hi, After disgraceful but teaching-a-lot failure of Mod 2 test a few weeks ago, yesterday I had a 2-hour session with another instructor as my previous ones were not too accommodating and wanted me to go for 4 hours at a higher price. Anyway. Initially the Kwak I went on was a bit dodgy and the guy decided to check my basic controls so after a few minutes riding quiet streets he decided that I'm good enough to go through town centre. So he told me bits and bobs about what I need to do and eventually he said that I have no problem riding a bike, but I tend to do too many things like unnecessary lifesavers and shoulder checks which basically affect my balance and screw up the whole picture. So, just a few things I got from him : 1. If you are ahead of a queue at a T-Junction turning right, just check both directions, but lifesaver isn't necessary even if you are stationary, doing it will only make you miss the opportunity to go 2. The same as above if you are at a roundabout, waiting for a gap in a traffic 3. On mini roundabouts if you are turning right don't indicate left before exit... Any opinions on that ?

That's not quite how Independent Driving will work, but anyway it applies to the car test, not motorcycle. Well it's third hand info so some of the details may have been muddled, the second hand was a bike instructor who was convinced it applied to the bike test too. The person he heard it from was a bike examiner. I'd be more happy to ride a route to some place as oppose to ride waiting for command from the guy behind. In my opinion, it is easier for a bike rider... So you plan ahead and do it as you wanna do, not as that man behind does...

Yes, although it's DSA and not DVLA. Go here http://www.dsa.gov.uk/AtoZservices_Bannered.asp?Cat=-1&TestType=car&TypeID=17 to select your test centre, then choose the route from the list on the right side. of course DSA Thanks a lot !!!