Boothy Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 for there first year? Personally I think its ridiculous that somebody aged 21 can go and do DAS and then go and buy a ZZR1400 (other bikes not suitable for new riders available) if they wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealexme Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 yes! some sort of restriction, but as I have never ridden a 33bhp bike, I am not in the place to say if it should be a higher, lower or same restriction as that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 yes! some sort of restriction, but as I have never ridden a 33bhp bike, I am not in the place to say if it should be a higher, lower or same restriction as that Higher... like 100BHP or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuno1 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 No. If someone wants to buy a big bike after a das course let them. I did my das and bought a ninja 636. If I had to ride a restricted bike I probably would not have bothered. If they are going to ride like a knobber it does not make a difference what size the bike is, the only difference will be the speed a which they stack it!There are already restricted licences available so why penalise everyone for the sake of a few. At 21 you are big enough and ugly enough to understand your actions have consequences. Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I would like to see learners allowed to use bikes up to 33hp instead of 15hp and then the switch to higher powered bikes after passing DAS is less extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hodgy Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 The reason for doing DAS is so you have no restriction and can ride whatever you want, I did it and bought the GSX600f. I do think from a safety point of view it's ridiculas to be able to go out and but a hyabussa or similar as a first bike as soon as you've passed your test on a 500cc bike with no further training, regardless of if you're 21 or 51? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 At 21 you are big enough and ugly enough to understand your actions have consequences. I see what you mean and to by honest I thought that by the age of 21 that people would know that it would be silly to be getting bikes that can match supercars for performance after only a few weeks of riding but recent posts/ people I've spoken to it has become clear that this is not the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonniebird Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I think the rules around riding bikes are complicated enough.Car drivers are not restricted to power or engine capacity. Generally the affordability of insurance is more of an inhibition to riding more powerful bikes or driving more powerful cars. Perhaps insurance companies should hike the premiums more on higher capacity bikes for less experienced riders and give the rest of us a break!If people are rich enough and daft enough to still go for a ridiculously powerful bike just after passing their DAS then its up to them. One way of getting rid of them and closing the income gap Either that or anyone riding a bike of more than 100bhp within a year of passing has to display a warning sign saying 'I am a *****' (insert insult of your choice) so other road users can take evasive action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boro Jake Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 No, its views like that thats ruining biking. pfft call yourself a biker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogof Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 If people are rich enough and daft enough to still go for a ridiculously powerful bike just after passing their DAS then its up to them. One way of getting rid of them and closing the income gap Either that or anyone riding a bike of more than 100bhp within a year of passing has to display a warning sign saying 'I am a *****' (insert insult of your choice) so other road users can take evasive action. That's a bit harsh, although I am inclined to agree with the sentiment. I passed DAS and 11 weeks later I bought a VTR1000 Firestorm. The insurance cost me less than £20 more than the GSX600F.Does that make me a *****? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guinnless Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 No, there are enough bloody restrictions.If you've passed the DAS then that's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingah Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 for there first year? Personally I think its ridiculous that somebody aged 21 can go and do DAS and then go and buy a ZZR1400 (other bikes not suitable for new riders available) if they wanted.As of 2013 this will not be possible. Nor for 22 or 23 year olds.You'll need to be 24+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieK Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 no! thats the point of das .. direct access?.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techno Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hahaha nice joke boothy, absolutly not, no more bloody restrictions, your restricted sort of by insurance costs upto a point.I like the idea of letting learners have more than 15bhp tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonniebird Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Does that make me a *****? Couldn't possibly comment Bogof Engine restriction is a pretty blunt weapon. Most 'big' bikes can do 100mph plus and out accelerate most cars, its what goes on between the ears that makes someone 'safe' or 'unsafe'. Insurance premiums are based on risk, age of rider, 'type' of bike, capacity of bike, BHP, location, whether you use it for commuting, whether you take a pillion, likely mileage etc.........No legislation can take all that into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecat Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 nope...cant see the point , when you can do the standard test, sit it out for 2 years and then ride whatever the hell you like with no experience of the higher power, whichever way you view this , the whole system would need restructuring if you implemented a restriction after das. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealexme Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hahaha nice joke boothy, absolutly not, no more bloody restrictions, your restricted sort of by insurance costs upto a point.I like the idea of letting learners have more than 15bhp tho.me too, may actually be able to reach duel carraigeway speeds O.O immagine that, keeping up with traffic! Would be a lot safer away from traffic lights too. I hardly ever filter to the front on the 125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
techno Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hahaha nice joke boothy, absolutly not, no more bloody restrictions, your restricted sort of by insurance costs upto a point.I like the idea of letting learners have more than 15bhp tho.me too, may actually be able to reach duel carraigeway speeds O.O immagine that, keeping up with traffic! Would be a lot safer away from traffic lights too. I hardly ever filter to the front on the 125 On second thoughts it would make it more difficult to buzz learners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamBerryKing Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Restrictions after DAS would not work. If it would come into legislation, You may as well do your A2 when possible, And just wait the 2 years for your unlimited access, as im sure has been mentioned.If this came into action, Then surely anyone who passes their car test should be restricted to cars under a certain performance grade? until they have driven a lower performing one for a period of time?Nah it wouldn't work and everyone would just drive/ride illegally. Or even if someone was to persue getting a license it'd be a massive ballache and people would no doubt be put off, Reducing the amount of riders.I have no idea if i made sense or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Restrictions after DAS would not work. If it would come into legislation, You may as well do your A2 when possible, And just wait the 2 years for your unlimited access, as im sure has been mentioned.If this came into action, Then surely anyone who passes their car test should be restricted to cars under a certain performance grade? until they have driven a lower performing one for a period of time?Nah it wouldn't work and everyone would just drive/ride illegally. Or even if someone was to persue getting a license it'd be a massive ballache and people would no doubt be put off, Reducing the amount of riders.I have no idea if i made sense or not. Well they have done it to everybody under 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olidavey Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I reckon the restriction period should be reduced by 6months those who undertake further training ie bikesafe, IAM etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogof Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Does that make me a *****? Couldn't possibly comment Bogof That's the problem with people that stereotype, they're all brainless idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttled Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I propose the following for new riders of Hayabusas.......http://huskytalk.com/photoplog/images/9530/large/1_ball-and-chain.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingah Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I propose the following for new riders of Hayabusas.......http://huskytalk.com/photoplog/images/9530/large/1_ball-and-chain.jpg A wife?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk190 Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 i think that if you pass your test on a 500 and you should be restricted to a 500. for ever. buy a bigger bike and you should have to re take another test, on that bike.each time you buy a bigger bike. you sit another test. and so on.but what do i care i passed my test bloody years ago only joking. no. no restrictions at all. once you have proven your ability in a test then you have proven your ability. full stop.. i do agree on the 21 age limit tho. the bad old days of passing your test on a 125 as a 17 year old and then going out to buy a gsxr1100 are happily in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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