gaz_h Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Hiya, im posting this on behalf of my partner, were both new to the forum world so i hope were doing this right. He has a suzuki ts 125 r (1994) Its been riding fine until last week when the clutch seemed to be 'slipping' he says its like its not engaging. He changed the springs and plates and still having same issue. We were wondering if anyone has every encounted this sort of problem or if anyone knows the best way to go about fixing the problem. Obviously there is the answer of taking it to a garage but this is the last and most costly option we have, so if he can fix it himself would be a bonus. Thanks in advance Lucy (& gaz whos currently at work) Quote
eastanglianbiker Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 hiya and welcome to the forum did he only change the friction plates or the metal plates as well?is the clutch cable moving freely when not conected as they get gummed up inside and that can stop them moving and makes the clutch slip? Quote
Tiggie Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 I'm about to shake a hornets nest........ has the oil been changed recently and if so what kind? Quote
gaz_h Posted June 10, 2013 Author Posted June 10, 2013 Hiya thanks both for replying. He just changed friction plates, clutch still not engaging even when bypassing the cable and engaging the leaver,Oil has been changed and it was castrol 10 40(Hope this makes sense to you as I have no clue just relaying what he's telling me) Quote
Tiggie Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 castrol or castrol magnatec? the magnatec one has friction modifiers that dont play nice with bike clutches Quote
Stu Posted June 10, 2013 Posted June 10, 2013 Sounds to me that it just needs adjusting up properly as per manual Some need to be done a specific way Quote
gaz_h Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Oh dear it was magnatec! What would you suggest the best action to be? X Quote
Tiggie Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 drain the oil out, stick some cheap oil in and run the bike up to temp then drain that, this should help flush out the magnatec. now just stick in some normal oil and go for a ride it should hopefully right itself before long. another thing you could do is take the clutch plates out, clean them off and leave them soaking overnight in oil before putting them back in. Quote
Fozzie Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 On a bike like that you just want 10W40 semi-synthetic from Halfords No fully synth or any magnatec crap Quote
Stu Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Sod halfords get to add a castrol semi synthetic 10 40 for 12 quid Its not bike specific but it doesn't need to be I use it in mine with probably ten times the power with no problems Quote
Tiggie Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 nothing wrong with regular castrol like stu says get four litres from asda for £12according to google your bike only needs 1.2 litres so you could get one bottle of that and use it for both the flush and refill Quote
gaz_h Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Would this solve the return of the clutch arm as have no resistance on it? Quote
Tiggie Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 sounds like you need to properly adjust the clutch lever and cable. Quote
Tango Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I'm not sure if I'm reading this right.....so, are you talking about the arm on the clutch cover? If that has no resistance then I think it's not engaged in the push rod correctly....so it'll need the cover off again to check.....and also make sure that the clutch basket isn't notched and the plates are sticking..... Quote
Stu Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Im with tango here if the clutch isnt releasing properly then it will cause slippage Quote
gaz_h Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 Update: have clutch engaging and disengagementSlight squeek when lever pulled in and shudderin when come to a stop at lights? Quote
eastanglianbiker Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 need cable adjusting then by the sound of that last statment Quote
Tiggie Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 I like to take the cable off bike completely and hang it up. I pour 3in1 oil in until it drips out the other end, a forum member told me about this and it works nicely Quote
gaz_h Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 There plenty adjustment left, just feels like lever won't go any further Quote
Tango Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 Sounds like the clutch may be dragging a bit......I think I'd whip the clutch cover off and just check everything is tight in there.Did you soak the new clutch plates before fitting them?......it's normally recommended to soak them in engine oil for a few hours at least....and better still, overnight...... Quote
Stu Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 There plenty adjustment left, just feels like lever won't go any further what do you mean the lever wont go any further? as in it wont pull back more? how much free play have you got at the lever end? will the lever come back to the bar when pulled? Quote
gaz_h Posted June 11, 2013 Author Posted June 11, 2013 When pulled in to engage clutch it feels like it's reaching its maximum Quote
Tango Posted June 11, 2013 Posted June 11, 2013 When pulled in to engage clutch it feels like it's reaching its maximumSo does that mean that the lever won't come all the way to the bar? Quote
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