Phooey Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Not a major problem but it would be nice to be able to select neutral with some degree of confidence.Stopping, for example at lights, I always try to select neutral but find I am missing it. 1st to 2nd then back to 1st. By the time I get it the lights have often changed.This problem is not so bad when the bike is warmed up. By warmed up I mean after a good 30 minute plus open road ride.Is this potentially a clutch issue that might necessitate a basket change at some point, a gearbox issue or something else I have not thought about? I have recently changed the clutch cable and I know that it is correctly adjusted.When I go for a ride out with a couple of mates I am ALWAYS the last to be able to get neutral and they have all suggested something is wrong but, typically, all suggested different things.What are your thoughts?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Clutch drag......is the bike due for an oil change? As it happens more with a cold engine, then it may be down to the viscosity of the oil when it's cold..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Clutch drag......is the bike due for an oil change? As it happens more with a cold engine, then it may be down to the viscosity of the oil when it's cold..... Not long had a service mate. New oil included Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastanglianbiker Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 try pulling the clutch in just before stopping and see if it pops into neutral any easier then while the wheels are still turning,is the chain adjusted correctly as that can also give you problems which can vanish as everything warms up and expands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 try pulling the clutch in just before stopping and see if it pops into neutral any easier then while the wheels are still turning,is the chain adjusted correctly as that can also give you problems which can vanish as everything warms up and expands I am pretty fussy about chain tension and check it regularly. I have tried pulling the clutch early and coasting while trying to find the neutral but that doesn't work either. Immediately after starting it has taken me a minute or more to get neutral. After an hour ride it is within seconds.I keep getting told that all bikes are the same but to be honest, I don't know another bike as bad as this one. At first I thought it was my inexperience but I have 'played' with a few bikes now taking a quick run round the block and it has only highlighted how difficult mine is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Your plates are warped in such a way that heat straightens them out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 Your plates are warped in such a way that heat straightens them out So am I looking at a clutch rebuild then Stu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Yes I would replace the steel and friction plates and the springs while your at it Use oem steel and springs and EBC friction don't buy cheap stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phooey Posted August 24, 2014 Author Share Posted August 24, 2014 Cheers mate. Wont be doing this for a while but it is a job on list for as soon as I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 If you're stopping somewhere, kill the engine with the kill switch and then pop it into neutral..... Stu's right (as usual)....replace the plain plates as well as the friction plates and springs with decent quality stuff.... Top tip mate.....on many bikes the clutch cover can be removed without draining the oil as long as the bike is on the sidestand..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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