thevoyager Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Hi..Just wondering if anyone can suggest a good all in one tracker and alarm of do these things usually come in 2?I was looking at the TK range on ebay, heard good reviews, but I want an alarm and tracker..Any advice appreciated.Thanks. Quote
SlowBusa Posted June 26, 2018 Posted June 26, 2018 Buy them separately,That gives them Two things to disable instead of just One, and a Tracker is easy to hide Quote
thevoyager Posted June 27, 2018 Author Posted June 27, 2018 Buy them separately,That gives them Two things to disable instead of just One, and a Tracker is easy to hide Do you know if trackers and alarm can still work off the battery even if the main loom is cut. Providing they are connected to the battery side? I have a very nice battery box and storage area which is housed away in a neat place and locked, no getting in there at all. If i wack it all in there would the tracker and alarm still work if the main loom was cut ot tampered with? Quote
thevoyager Posted June 27, 2018 Author Posted June 27, 2018 Anyone heard of this company?Way over my budget but pretty cool how you don't need to connect it to a mains battery..https://monimoto.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwMWV85vz2wIVLbHtCh1peACyEAQYASABEgLLCPD_BwE Quote
Bender Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocial/reviews/products/security/trackers/tested-monimoto-smart-alarm-and-tracker-review Quote
SlowBusa Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Do you know if trackers and alarm can still work off the battery even if the main loom is cut. Providing they are connected to the battery side? In theory they should work, however There will be No guarantee Have a look here https://www.rewiresecurity.co.uk/gps-tracker-car-tracking-devicesI have the 303.its very small ...a little bigger than a Tick-Tack box and houses battery backup, costs me £5 a month with a GiffGaff Sim card Quote
thevoyager Posted June 27, 2018 Author Posted June 27, 2018 I have read that trackers do not work well when enclosed with metal, kind of defeats the object, I built a metal box specifically for security...Any ideas round this? Quote
SlowBusa Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 They arnt supposed to work in a garage either but mine does, Some GPS devices do work in metal boxes as they are designed to work if a thief puts the vehicle in a shed with a jammer, they will cost more, but so does replacing your bikeYou could ask rewire themselves.their customer service is Outstanding and they will help you honestly and very quickly, they wont push you to buy (unlike some companies) if its not going to work for your circumstances they wont suggest itThey may steer you to a different model ....maybe even a different companies model Quote
Gerontious Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Some GPS devices do work in metal boxes as they are designed to work if a thief puts the vehicle in a shed with a jammer I would like to see an example of one of these devices. links? Quote
SlowBusa Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Some GPS devices do work in metal boxes as they are designed to work if a thief puts the vehicle in a shed with a jammer I would like to see an example of one of these devices. links? Theres a site you can use, its called Google Quote
Gerontious Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Some GPS devices do work in metal boxes as they are designed to work if a thief puts the vehicle in a shed with a jammer I would like to see an example of one of these devices. links? Theres a site you can use, its called Google I tried.. and failed. the consensus on google is that its scientifically impossible for the GPS signal from the satellites to penetrate metal.. even foil will stop it. The only way it can possibly work is if the signal is reflected from a nearby surface.. ie, the ground or by passing through non metallic surfaces. like glass. (car windows) Or brickwork.. roof tiles and windows. in my house. Quote
Bender Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 Gps signal is very weak, heated windscreen is enough to stop some, doubt any will work through metal, the review from Bennetts said the same when they tested it. Quote
SlowBusa Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 I really wanted to prove these things were an option..but I cant ...(not in 10 minutes I cant)....I cant find any that do either now When I was researching Trackers last year there were a few options £300-500 that claimed to tunnel through gps blockers frequencies (like using Linux tuneling protocol to walk through a Firewall) Im sure I can find residual web pages that prove these manufacturer claims existed ...but I cant be arsed wasting 3 hours to prove these site pages once existed Glad I didnt buy one back then now Quote
SlowBusa Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 I was talking about anti jammer not metal (I read that bit wrong)Even so I cant find them now anyway Quote
Joeman Posted June 27, 2018 Posted June 27, 2018 I've played about with a few GPS trackers. The good ones use GSM and GPS positioning so as long as they can receive a mobile signal they can triangulate a position from mobile phone masts. Combined with the last position from the GPS and you can get a reasonable location fix.When in the garages, mine is set to movement sensor mode. So if my bike is moved it calls me or texts me. If someone takes it out of the garage it will continue to send it's position.TLT2h - from eBay. Quote
thevoyager Posted June 28, 2018 Author Posted June 28, 2018 I've played about with a few GPS trackers. The good ones use GSM and GPS positioning so as long as they can receive a mobile signal they can triangulate a position from mobile phone masts. Combined with the last position from the GPS and you can get a reasonable location fix.When in the garages, mine is set to movement sensor mode. So if my bike is moved it calls me or texts me. If someone takes it out of the garage it will continue to send it's position.TLT2h - from eBay. I can not for the life of me find this simple info... do most trackers have their own battery supply, as in hold a charge if the loom is cut say?? Also, are there any truly free services, most seem to state there is a monthly charge, even the cheaper ones in ebay.. ?? Quote
Joeman Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 I've played about with a few GPS trackers. The good ones use GSM and GPS positioning so as long as they can receive a mobile signal they can triangulate a position from mobile phone masts. Combined with the last position from the GPS and you can get a reasonable location fix.When in the garages, mine is set to movement sensor mode. So if my bike is moved it calls me or texts me. If someone takes it out of the garage it will continue to send it's position.TLT2h - from eBay. I can not for the life of me find this simple info... do most trackers have their own battery supply, as in hold a charge if the loom is cut say?? Also, are there any truly free services, most seem to state there is a monthly charge, even the cheaper ones in ebay.. ??Here we see the insides of a TLT2F GPS tracker. The blue thing is a battery that lets it's keep sending location after the power is cut.Like most it will need a mobile simcard card which on Giffgaff networks costs about 5quid per month. Quote
Tankbag Posted June 28, 2018 Posted June 28, 2018 Anyone heard of this company?Way over my budget but pretty cool how you don't need to connect it to a mains battery..https://monimoto.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwMWV85vz2wIVLbHtCh1peACyEAQYASABEgLLCPD_BwE Just ordered one of these I'll report back in the tried & tested section, intend to try it on both the bike & a caravan Quote
thevoyager Posted July 10, 2018 Author Posted July 10, 2018 Anyone heard of this company?Way over my budget but pretty cool how you don't need to connect it to a mains battery..https://monimoto.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwMWV85vz2wIVLbHtCh1peACyEAQYASABEgLLCPD_BwE Just ordered one of these I'll report back in the tried & tested section, intend to try it on both the bike & a caravan Just a little stumped by this.."In general, any kind of motion or vibration drains the Key battery. While riding a motorcycle, the lowest energy consumption is observed when the Key is next to Monimoto. While the motorcycle is parked the lowest energy consumption is observed when the Key is outside of the range of the Monimoto. This suggests that carrying the Key with you at all times is not efficient, and that is true. However, we do not recommend leaving the Key next to your motorcycle either as that will leave the motorcycle unprotected."So best way to preserve battery is to leave the key near the tracker so it is in sleep mode? Quote
Tankbag Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Anyone heard of this company?Way over my budget but pretty cool how you don't need to connect it to a mains battery..https://monimoto.co.uk/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIwMWV85vz2wIVLbHtCh1peACyEAQYASABEgLLCPD_BwE Just ordered one of these I'll report back in the tried & tested section, intend to try it on both the bike & a caravan Just a little stumped by this.."In general, any kind of motion or vibration drains the Key battery. While riding a motorcycle, the lowest energy consumption is observed when the Key is next to Monimoto. While the motorcycle is parked the lowest energy consumption is observed when the Key is outside of the range of the Monimoto. This suggests that carrying the Key with you at all times is not efficient, and that is true. However, we do not recommend leaving the Key next to your motorcycle either as that will leave the motorcycle unprotected."So best way to preserve battery is to leave the key near the tracker so it is in sleep mode? Initially the sensitivity of this device is astounding, I left it parked up, my father in law coincidentally began cutting some steel with a loud circular saw about 6 feet from my bike & it sent me an "ALARM ! NO MOTION gps coordinates available" I've turned down the sensitivity & its stopped doing this now. I haven't had time to fully test it to do a write up yet. I guess I'll find out how long the battery lasts at some point. Quote
SlowBusa Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 My Gps texted me this morning because the postman brushed past my bike ...he hardly touched it But he did touch itI Confirmed the time with CCTVMine is only £70 Quote
Tankbag Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 My Gps texted me this morning because the postman brushed past my bike ...he hardly touched it But he did touch itI Confirmed the time with CCTVMine is only £70 How does yours arm / disarm ? Taa Quote
SlowBusa Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Its always onSleeps if the bike isnt moving and wakes up when it feels vibration/movement Deep Shock is an option for longer storage.https://www.rewiresecurity.co.uk/gps-303-fleet-car-vehicle-tracking-device-coban Quote
Tankbag Posted July 10, 2018 Posted July 10, 2018 Cheers ears, I still want a tracker for the bike & the expensive Monomoto one is destined for the caravan Quote
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