Shadow125 Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 New tyre time for the CBRIt came with Dunlop’s on it, I have been recommended Michelin pilot 2’s and 4’s with the 4’s been highly recommended. There is a slight price difference but not enough to put me off. I am looking for an all rounder and especially something good in the wet as I live in ScotlandShould I stick with Dunlop or move to the Michelin’s? Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 Pilot road 4s are the tyre I'd go for mate, they are soooooo good all round and my last set I had 13 n half thousand miles and a trackday at snetterton from the pair and they still had life left in them Quote
Shadow125 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Posted May 28, 2019 Changing away from Hondas recommended Dunlop should pose no issue? Been quoted around £270 for back and front fitted for 4s Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 No there would be no issue with using that tyre, my zx6r came with dunlop and I run Michelin Quote
Shadow125 Posted May 28, 2019 Author Posted May 28, 2019 Any advise for riding when they are fresh on? I have heard horror stories and we’re expecting rain Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted May 28, 2019 Posted May 28, 2019 Just go easy on them for the first few hundred miles till they are scrubbed in Quote
raesewell Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 I found the tracking on PR4s was horrendous, the slightest deformation in the road surface and the PR4s would make a dive for it.Pirelli Angel GT or GT II Quote
Stu Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 I found the tracking on PR4s was horrendous, the slightest deformation in the road surface and the PR4s would make a dive for it.Pirelli Angel GT or GT II Never had an issue over the last 5 years using them Quote
raesewell Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 I must say the PR4s were the worst tyre I have ever had, maybe I got some duff ones. I can only comment on my own experience, the PR3s were OK but not exceptional.The Angel GT get good reviews everywhere the Angel GT II haven't been out long enough for reviews to be meaningful yet.In a tyre shoot out a couple of years ago the Angel GT was excluded as it was so much better than the other tyres in the shoot out.I'll see if I can find out what the other tyres were. Quote
Shadow125 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 The plot thickens!! Maybe go with the 2s as I have heard nothing but good things Quote
Gerontious Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 The plot thickens!! Maybe go with the 2s as I have heard nothing but good things No it doesn't.Ive had PR3 and 4 tyres and would have no hesitation in recommending them to anyone as quite possibly the very best tyres you can buy for year round riding. And especially where some motorway riding is concerned. Sure footed in the dry and more importantly in the wet. Each and every generation has been a marked improvement on the previous. Only go for the 2 if you cannot justify (or find) 3's 4's or 5's. Quote
Stu Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 The plot thickens!! Maybe go with the 2s as I have heard nothing but good things No it doesn't.Ive had PR3 and 4 tyres and would have no hesitation in recommending them to anyone as quite possibly the very best tyres you can buy for year round riding. And especially where some motorway riding is concerned. Sure footed in the dry and more importantly in the wet. Each and every generation has been a marked improvement on the previous. Only go for the 2 if you cannot justify (or find) 3's 4's or 5's. This! ^^^^^^^ I must say the PR4s were the worst tyre I have ever had, maybe I got some duff ones. I can only comment on my own experience, the PR3s were OK but not exceptional.The Angel GT get good reviews everywhere the Angel GT II haven't been out long enough for reviews to be meaningful yet.In a tyre shoot out a couple of years ago the Angel GT was excluded as it was so much better than the other tyres in the shoot out.I'll see if I can find out what the other tyres were. Too many variables to say the reasons why they never worked for you but they have been the best tyres I have used!Tyre pressures, loading and riding styles are all contributing factors! Quote
Shadow125 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 The plot thickens!! Maybe go with the 2s as I have heard nothing but good things No it doesn't.Ive had PR3 and 4 tyres and would have no hesitation in recommending them to anyone as quite possibly the very best tyres you can buy for year round riding. And especially where some motorway riding is concerned. Sure footed in the dry and more importantly in the wet. Each and every generation has been a marked improvement on the previous. Only go for the 2 if you cannot justify (or find) 3's 4's or 5's. They appear to get great reviews all over, I was recommended them in two separate garages. I was just looking at the road 5s, possibly could be the answer? Quote
Gerontious Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 The plot thickens!! Maybe go with the 2s as I have heard nothing but good things No it doesn't.Ive had PR3 and 4 tyres and would have no hesitation in recommending them to anyone as quite possibly the very best tyres you can buy for year round riding. And especially where some motorway riding is concerned. Sure footed in the dry and more importantly in the wet. Each and every generation has been a marked improvement on the previous. Only go for the 2 if you cannot justify (or find) 3's 4's or 5's. They appear to get great reviews all over, I was recommended them in two separate garages. I was just looking at the road 5s, possibly could be the answer? They are all good.. even the 2's. But.. bear in mind they are at least 6-7yrs old now and there is a reason they were replaced. There was room for improvement and so, year by year they have been.The difference between 2 and 3 was small.. just an improvement in wet grip. The big change came with the 4. improved grip and lifespan. and a much 'sportier' profile. Though as with most 'so called' sport touring tyres they are definitely aimed at riders who spend more time riding to the twisties than in the twisties. in other words they're aimed at real world riders in the UK climate who spend most of their time on the bike doing the normal commute and general riding and possibly a much longer ride/trip abroad once a year. I cannot comment on the new 5's. but as they are the latest.. if you can justify the cost to yourself then go for them. Quote
Shadow125 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 No it doesn't.Ive had PR3 and 4 tyres and would have no hesitation in recommending them to anyone as quite possibly the very best tyres you can buy for year round riding. And especially where some motorway riding is concerned. Sure footed in the dry and more importantly in the wet. Each and every generation has been a marked improvement on the previous. Only go for the 2 if you cannot justify (or find) 3's 4's or 5's. They appear to get great reviews all over, I was recommended them in two separate garages. I was just looking at the road 5s, possibly could be the answer? They are all good.. even the 2's. But.. bear in mind they are at least 6-7yrs old now and there is a reason they were replaced. There was room for improvement and so, year by year they have been.The difference between 2 and 3 was small.. just an improvement in wet grip. The big change came with the 4. improved grip and lifespan. and a much 'sportier' profile. Though as with most 'so called' sport touring tyres they are definitely aimed at riders who spend more time riding to the twisties than in the twisties. in other words they're aimed at real world riders in the UK climate who spend most of their time on the bike doing the normal commute and general riding and possibly a much longer ride/trip abroad once a year. I cannot comment on the new 5's. but as they are the latest.. if you can justify the cost to yourself then go for them. I am new to big bikes and only bought the CBR600 last week so I will not be carving any twisty roads up. I would like to get the best all rounder I can, especially in the wet as the rain is never far away in Scotland. The 5s get great reviews online without only around £25 difference from the 4s Quote
Stu Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 Pretty sure [mention]Mr Fro[/mention] did a wet track day on the pr4 and rated them rather well Quote
Shadow125 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 Black circles has a 10% offer today. See photo attached, that is for 5s front and back. Allow £50 fitting and that works out just £10 more than 4s fitted Quote
Smithers Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 I must say the PR4s were the worst tyre I have ever had, maybe I got some duff ones. I can only comment on my own experience, the PR3s were OK but not exceptional.The Angel GT get good reviews everywhere the Angel GT II haven't been out long enough for reviews to be meaningful yet.In a tyre shoot out a couple of years ago the Angel GT was excluded as it was so much better than the other tyres in the shoot out.I'll see if I can find out what the other tyres were. Odd what you say about PR4's. I went from Honda supplied Dunlop's to PR4's and it transformed the bike. I love em and will stick to Michies in the future. Quote
raesewell Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 I don't doubt other peoples accounts but can only speak as I find and Michelins are off my tyre list.I like Avons, Pirellis are good and at the moment after swearing never to use Bridgestones again I have a set of T30 evo and they have been fine. Quote
Shadow125 Posted May 29, 2019 Author Posted May 29, 2019 After watching a Revzilla review and reading various websites. The 5s get glowing reviews and as I have no prior experience it comes down to best educated guess and take the leap I feel Quote
anth_85 Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 the trouble is none of us can try multiple tyres before we buy them. So really you have to trust reviews. Most people will be biased to what they have. I can't fault my road 5s. But I have never ridden on the 2/3/4 so I cant say the 5 are any better. Quote
raesewell Posted May 29, 2019 Posted May 29, 2019 And if the truth be known any modern tyres are far better than we are of testing them to the limit Quote
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