Are these forks too soft?

[jedibiker]

@jedibiker fork specs.

 

Do you know if there are any torque settings for reassembly? cheers

Give up. No matter what I do the pictures are the wrong way. I blame

great thanks, still printed it ok.. cheers.. I find phone pics do that, have to crop it or take shot in different setting 4/3 etc

[JRH]

Do you know if there are any torque settings for reassembly? cheers

Give up. No matter what I do the pictures are the wrong way. I blame

great thanks, still printed it ok.. cheers.. I find phone pics do that, have to crop it or take shot in different setting 4/3 etc

 

If you need anything else I have the Haynes manual for 650 and 1250.

[jedibiker]

Give up. No matter what I do the pictures are the wrong way. I blame

great thanks, still printed it ok.. cheers.. I find phone pics do that, have to crop it or take shot in different setting 4/3 etc

 

If you need anything else I have the Haynes manual for 650 and 1250.

great thanks, i got an online manual for the disassembly and a few video guides. Just wasnt sure about torques. I may be all needy tomorrow when doing it lol

[jedibiker]

think its sign.

Sportsbike shop not even sent oil, only 1 seal came as I read site wrong, it said 2 but meant you need 2. all delivery people keep delaying times..

Honestly wish id not bothered, haha.. happy weekend all.

[Guest Swagman]

Don’t forget to crack the bolts loose before you remove them from the bike, especially the one in the bottom of the legs they can be awkward.

[jedibiker]

Don’t forget to crack the bolts loose before you remove them from the bike, especially the one in the bottom of the legs they can be awkward.

 

defo buddy.

[Guest Swagman]

Don’t forget to crack the bolts loose before you remove them from the bike, especially the one in the bottom of the legs they can be awkward.

 

defo buddy.

 

Best of luck ,hope it goes without problems.

[jedibiker]

defo buddy.

Best of luck ,hope it goes without problems.

 

well. one shock top cap stuck, bolt shearing off, so had it in a vice and had to get a smaller socket on to get lose. so looks like shit.

Oil is black. only 300ml ish come out, manual says 469mm.

springs come out with tight pitch to top, but manual says to bottom.. so any advice?

cheers

[jedibiker]

i really need help.

putting 1 fork back together. and it won't do it.

Before i put the seals in the tube moves up fine to cover the spring and metal tube. as soon as seals are in, dust cover on, the damper bolt seems to lift with tube and springs stays few inches from top of tube, hence cant fit metal tube in. and it seems to lock.

followed the diagrams and videos to the letter. so no idea what the feck im doing wrong, it shouldn't take this long lol

[WD-40]

Did you figure it out? Have you put the damper bolt in? Once the damper bolt is in and tight the damper won't be able to move. On my bike you have to hold the damper still to tighten the bolt. If you don't hold it still it just turns when you turn the bolt. The common technique for holding it is to sharpen the end of a broom handle and jam it in the top of the damper to hold the damper still and then tighten the bolt Also if you let the fork stanchion fully bottom out the fork will lock together, don't know if that's what you're describing here but if you are you have to make sure that it doesn't fully bottom out

[jedibiker]

Did you figure it out? Have you put the damper bolt in? Once the damper bolt is in and tight the damper won't be able to move. On my bike you have to hold the damper still to tighten the bolt. If you don't hold it still it just turns when you turn the bolt. The common technique for holding it is to sharpen the end of a broom handle and jam it in the top of the damper to hold the damper still and then tighten the bolt Also if you let the fork stanchion fully bottom out the fork will lock together, don't know if that's what you're describing here but if you are you have to make sure that it doesn't fully bottom out

 

Holding it still is an issue without a tool, but luckily after 4 hours i got an imact driver and sorted it.. everyone here vanished lol

[Stu]

Did you figure it out? Have you put the damper bolt in? Once the damper bolt is in and tight the damper won't be able to move. On my bike you have to hold the damper still to tighten the bolt. If you don't hold it still it just turns when you turn the bolt. The common technique for holding it is to sharpen the end of a broom handle and jam it in the top of the damper to hold the damper still and then tighten the bolt Also if you let the fork stanchion fully bottom out the fork will lock together, don't know if that's what you're describing here but if you are you have to make sure that it doesn't fully bottom out

 

Holding it still is an issue without a tool, but luckily after 4 hours i got an imact driver and sorted it.. everyone here vanished lol

 

Thats the thing with forums they are only helpful when people are about

It sounds like you have sorted it now though

[jedibiker]

Did you figure it out? Have you put the damper bolt in? Once the damper bolt is in and tight the damper won't be able to move. On my bike you have to hold the damper still to tighten the bolt. If you don't hold it still it just turns when you turn the bolt. The common technique for holding it is to sharpen the end of a broom handle and jam it in the top of the damper to hold the damper still and then tighten the bolt Also if you let the fork stanchion fully bottom out the fork will lock together, don't know if that's what you're describing here but if you are you have to make sure that it doesn't fully bottom out

 

Holding it still is an issue without a tool, but luckily after 4 hours i got an imact driver and sorted it.. everyone here vanished lol

 

Thats the thing with forums they are only helpful when people are about

It sounds like you have sorted it now though

 

confused why the springs had tight end at the top when manual says to put them at the bottom, I fear doin as per manual will have crap result

[Stu]

Holding it still is an issue without a tool, but luckily after 4 hours i got an imact driver and sorted it.. everyone here vanished lol

 

Thats the thing with forums they are only helpful when people are about

It sounds like you have sorted it now though

 

confused why the springs had tight end at the top when manual says to put them at the bottom, I fear doin as per manual will have crap result

 

They may have already been replaced by previous owner and not be the stock ones!

[jedibiker]

Thats the thing with forums they are only helpful when people are about

It sounds like you have sorted it now though

 

confused why the springs had tight end at the top when manual says to put them at the bottom, I fear doin as per manual will have crap result

 

They may have already been replaced by previous owner and not be the stock ones!

 

ah,, possibly.. so short bit needs to be at top? quick fix

[Stu]

confused why the springs had tight end at the top when manual says to put them at the bottom, I fear doin as per manual will have crap result

 

They may have already been replaced by previous owner and not be the stock ones!

 

ah,, possibly.. so short bit needs to be at top? quick fix

 

I know some aftermarket springs have the tighter wound coils at the top I have just fitted new springs to a BMW f800 gs and they are at the top

Personally I would be fitting them back how they came out as they may well be aftermarket

[TimR]

confused why the springs had tight end at the top when manual says to put them at the bottom, I fear doin as per manual will have crap result

 

They may have already been replaced by previous owner and not be the stock ones!

 

ah,, possibly.. so short bit needs to be at top? quick fix

 

See if you can see a manufacturer name on them ..

[Guest Swagman]

I really don’t think it matters which way you have them as long as they are both the same way.

[TimR]

I really don’t think it matters which way you have them as long as they are both the same way.

 

Depends if they are progressive springs or not .

[Stu]

I really don’t think it matters which way you have them as long as they are both the same way.

 

Depends if they are progressive springs or not .

 

Why?

You're not changing the way the force works on the spring

I would have though it would be more of how they actually fit in the forks for say locating points than if they are progressive or not because how could you explain that on my bike the narrow coils go to the bottom but my mates F800 the narrow coils are at the top and they are both hyperpro progressive springs

[jedibiker]

I really don’t think it matters which way you have them as long as they are both the same way.

 

Depends if they are progressive springs or not .

 

Why?

You're not changing the way the force works on the spring

I would have though it would be more of how they actually fit in the forks for say locating points than if they are progressive or not because how could you explain that on my bike the narrow coils go to the bottom but my mates F800 the narrow coils are at the top and they are both hyperpro progressive springs

these are the same width but tighter one end. I was going to put back in same way until i saw manual. But as it rode ok ish i think il whip em off and swap springs around.

take it i cant do it on the bike to save half hr?

[Stu]

these are the same width but tighter one end. I was going to put back in same way until i saw manual. But as it rode ok ish i think il whip em off and swap springs around.

take it i cant do it on the bike to save half hr?

 

When I say narrower I mean less gap between the coils wrong wording on my part its actually called wound tighter

Its entirely up to you if you take them out and swap them or not but if they fit in fine and sit properly then leave them if you want

I would say seating is more important than orientation

[Guest Swagman]

I really don’t think it matters which way you have them as long as they are both the same way.

 

Depends if they are progressive springs or not .

 

Doesn’t matter either way, my Fazer has progressivel forks and when I changed springs they instructed You to turn them opposit to Oem ones.

[jedibiker]

When I say narrower I mean less gap between the coils wrong wording on my part its actually called wound tighter

Its entirely up to you if you take them out and swap them or not but if they fit in fine and sit properly then leave them if you want

I would say seating is more important than orientation

 

lol sorry. they sit fine. but as you say if they are newer springs and should be other way around I wonder if the spring will perform the same. in a way it should but with the tight bit at the top the strong part of the spring is at the bottom. in my head it shouldnt matter new progressive do seem to go tight way to top.

[jedibiker]

I really don’t think it matters which way you have them as long as they are both the same way.

 

Depends if they are progressive springs or not .

 

Doesn’t matter either way, my Fazer has progressivel forks and when I changed springs they instructed You to turn them opposit to Oem ones.

which may have happened with mine if someone fitted new springs, and they put tight to the top. as these springs need alot of preload Im thinking either they are proper Suzuki or someone put crap new springs in, oil was so black it must have been a while ago.