SInnis Apache has no ignition !!!

[19fraser93]

Hi there , yet more problems with this bike. I’ve taken the battery out charged it put it back and to have no ignition or nothing completely  dead , have checked the four fues in black box on left side under seat but don’t know if I’m missing some? And advice would be great , just my luck the bikes booked in Monday and I can’t even get the thing started to get it there

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

Check the battery voltage under some load, eg connect a bulb to it and check the voltage is above 12.5v.

 

Check the connections, particularly the earth connection to the frame.

 

Are any lights showing when you turn the ignition on?

[19fraser93]

Thanks for reply mate . Ok so what just like a normal bulb and a few wires ? Had all the connections off checked and put back together .

 

nothing atall mate not a single light or nothing comes on completely dead .

 

 

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

Yup, just connect a bulb across the battery so it lights, then check the voltage with a multimeter. The thing is that a discharged battery at rest will show 12v+. Put it under any kind of load and you'll soon see the voltage drop. Always test the simplest things first. 

 

You can put a dead battery on charge and it won't take anything, so just checking the battery is indeed fully charged.

[19fraser93]

Ok thanks il need to get some cable and try the bulb thing mate , and might try get a multimeter . My battery says fully charged on the charger but if the battery was crap would it still give false reading like that ?

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

It can do. Many chargers won't touch a totally dead battery so it can show as the battery being fully charged.

[19fraser93]

Rite that’s not bad then I was thinking because it said it was charged it must have been , got a new batter coming on Tuesday so going to try this and hope it sorts it just didn’t know if there is anything eles could cause this 

[19fraser93]

On 14/02/2021 at 17:48, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

It can do. Many chargers won't touch a totally dead battery so it can show as the battery being fully charged.

It turns out not to be the battery checked it with multimeter and has good charge any idea what could be next 

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

Did you also check the connections, particularly the earth lead?

[19fraser93]

Yes mate the earth looks fine checked fuses and both are good too. I’ve  tried to follow the cables to see where eles it could lead to and if any bad connections but can’t see anything . There was a bit of blueing on the connection from the ignition but still looks fine and a good connection if you know what I mean 

14 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

Did you also check the connections, particularly the earth lead?

 

14 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

Did you also check the connections, particularly the earth lead?

 

[19fraser93]

I’ve joined rac going to see if they can help not sure if it’s something they will do but I have technically broke down .

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

1 hour ago, 19fraser93 said:

Yes mate the earth looks fine checked fuses and both are good too. I’ve  tried to follow the cables to see where eles it could lead to and if any bad connections but can’t see anything . There was a bit of blueing on the connection from the ignition but still looks fine and a good connection if you know what I mean 

 

 

If there is blueing then there's a heat build up which means a bad connection. It might look fine and it may carry voltage, but it won't let current flow. Cut that out and replace with a proper soldered splice.

[19fraser93]

Ohh I’m not that handy mate lol what do you think need to that or is it better leaving for someone who knows what they are doing lol ? 

[TimR]

Have you checked the main fuse on starter solenoid ? ( If fitted )

Edited February 17, 2021 by TimR

[19fraser93]

Don’t know where that is I could only find two fuses in a black box .  Been taken to garage to have a look now thanks but  

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

Let us know what they find.

[Ellis taylor]

hello, I have a similar problem but I have  power to everything, my battery light flashes constantly, I have just broken down and it will not even try to turn over, first thought was the coil playing up after getting wet or fuse.
what should I do.