RJBroughton Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 ..and you wanted a fast and reasonably reliable sports bike for a good price, which would you go for?http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/RJBroughton/ApriliaRS125.jpgAprilia RS 125Top speed 93mph 1/4-mile acceleration 16 secs Power 15bhp Torque 14ftlb Weight 126kg Fuel capacity 14 litres Average fuel consumption 40mpg Tank range 125 miles Insurance group 12 http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/RJBroughton/CagicaMito125.jpgCagiva Mito 125Top speed 101mph 1/4-mile acceleration 13.5 secs Power 31bhp Torque 7ftlb Weight 129kg Fuel capacity 14 litres Average fuel consumption 34mpg Tank range 104 miles Insurance group 7 http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/RJBroughton/DerbiGPR125.jpgDerbi GPR 125Top speed 90mph 1/4-mile acceleration 13.6 secs Power 33bhp Torque ftlb Weight 125kg Fuel capacity 13 litres Average fuel consumption 45mpg Tank range 110 miles Insurance group 4 http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/RJBroughton/HondaCBR125.jpgHonda CBR 125Top speed 70mph 1/4-mile acceleration 18.9 secs Power 13bhp Torque 7ftlb Weight 115kg Fuel capacity 10 litres Average fuel consumption 72mpg Tank range 155 miles Insurance group 6 http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/RJBroughton/HondaNSR125.jpgHonda NSR 125Top speed 75mph 1/4-mile acceleration 17 secs Power 11.3bhp Torque 11ftlb Weight 127kg Fuel capacity 13 litres Average fuel consumption 56mpg Tank range 165 miles Insurance group 7 http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/RJBroughton/SachsXTC125.jpgSachs XTC 125Top speed 80mph 1/4-mile acceleration 19 secs Power 15bhp Torque 9.6ftlb Weight 130kg Fuel capacity 20 litres Average fuel consumption 65mpg Tank range 285 miles Insurance group 7 http://i413.photobucket.com/albums/pp219/RJBroughton/YamahaYZF-R125.jpgYamaha YZF-R 125Top speed 75mph 1/4-mile acceleration ?Power 14.6bhp Torque 9ftlb Weight 127kg Fuel capacity 13.8 litres Average fuel consumption 52mpg Tank range 150 miles Insurance group 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 i've voted for the honda but i wouldn't really buy any of them i'd buy a second hand jap 4 stroke then buy a proper bike once i'd passed test Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted November 16, 2008 Share Posted November 16, 2008 Buy from the factory the RS125 has 33HP and goes alot faster than the rest...Its the best now because the new one has been given a new 2-stroke rotax engine which is far more reliable...Causes it to cost alot more but it will outdo all the others easy...In a race with a Cagiva mito the RS out accelerates and gets to top speed quicker...I had one not so long ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 I vote the R125 because it look hot, its 4 stroke and still nippy, and its new.Pricey though.2nd choice is an rs125 which I have, you can get a decent 2001/2ish for about £1000 (the older versions are slightly faster and imo, look better.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 If you got 4-stroke it has to be the Sachs. It is the most powerful of the 4-strokes because the company used to make bikes using suzuki engines and then tuning them to get some extra power. Have a look at the Rieju RS2 matrix....Thats a 4-stroke 125 but it sounds nice and goes much faster than a cbr and is as fast as the sachs. I heard from someone that his could hit 85mph so its definately one to look at. The engine it uses is a yamaha so don't be put off by the spanish manufacturing side to it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 None of them, would get a KTM125 EXC33bhp, scary powerband and more fun than my 250 EXC F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollazuki Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 But a cheapo 125 then trade up when you can afford and your license will stand it.Non of the above are sports bikes, they are dressed up 125's.Wait till you can get a proper powerfull/quick bike, you'll wish you had saved your money.Im not being flippant, just honest.Yeah a 125 will struggle to just over a ton, but they do just that, 'struggle'Rolla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomW Posted November 17, 2008 Share Posted November 17, 2008 if i had to would be the derbi!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBroughton Posted November 17, 2008 Author Share Posted November 17, 2008 if i had to would be the derbi!! Yeh i agree mate but they are more expensive than the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 But a cheapo 125 then trade up when you can afford and your license will stand it.Non of the above are sports bikes, they are dressed up 125's.Wait till you can get a proper powerfull/quick bike, you'll wish you had saved your money.Im not being flippant, just honest.Yeah a 125 will struggle to just over a ton, but they do just that, 'struggle'Rollakinda agree with you but I'd happily trade my 2007 GSX-R 750 for a brand new KTM 125 EXC and a few bits of bling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugworth1987 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 cbr125r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4ff Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 cant believe the cbr is ahead.Its not the fastest but it wins on being the ugliest bike there.Wots going on with the mirrors It looks like a toy compared to the rest.Just needs pink tassles on the bar ends,a bell,sporky dorkies and stabalizers.Ppl will be asking how long it takes to charge up 12v or 24v Id go yam first.Then any of the rest cos they look like a "real bike" leaving the fugly cbr last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 If I were to chose one it would be the Sachs - it's the (2nd) fastest at 80mph so can maintain motorway speeds and it is the most frugal at 75 mpg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 If I were to chose one it would be the Sachs - it's the fastest at 80mph so can maintain motorway speeds and it is the most frugal at 75 mpg. I agree, but for motorways they arent too good as you have to rev the nuts off them to get them to go 70 though stick it in the left lane at 60 and it will be all right. If motorways are involved you would either bore out the 4-stroke so you got more power and could fit bigger sprockets or get the RS125 which mine holds 70mph at 6500rpm. It has the most torque so when tuned and given a better set of sprockets it aint half bad on the motorway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nastro azzurro Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 If I were to chose one it would be the Sachs - it's the fastest at 80mph so can maintain motorway speeds and it is the most frugal at 75 mpg. The Cagiva books @ 101 mph..... Wunt get any though.... but if they were available when i was in the market for a 125...... For looks it would be the Aprillia. But as a bairn i would want the fastest so it would be the Cagiva. (Fastest to the garage) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Duly amended brother Naz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBroughton Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 I need help people, at the moment i have a Cagiva Mito 125 and its great because its the fastest out of all my mates bikes and thats how i want it to stay, but im unfortunately having to sell it because i want something more reliable that dosent break (mines in the shop having a top end engine rebuild right now by the way) and i basically want to keep number 1 status within my friends by me having the fastest bike, but i need something more reliable, which one should i get? My budget is about 1000 pounds, i know this isnt a great amount but thats all i have..If there is any more anybody wants to add then feel free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Not without stepping down to 4-stroke I'm afraid...the mito is the most unreliable of the 2-strokes as it has to rev more to get that same power as its equivalents. It was never designed with reliability in mind. The latest RS125 has a new Rotax engine which is supposed to be reliable, the first thing I noticed with mine is it sounds deeper and makes more torque...definately a complete overhaul so I would look into it...If you want 2-stroke that is.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJBroughton Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Arent NSR's reliable?I heard they were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill_on_a_bike Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I know a guy with an NSR who's derestricted it and all that jazz, had it for years and as far as i know no major engine work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannars125 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 cant believe the cbr is ahead.Its not the fastest but it wins on being the ugliest bike there.Wots going on with the mirrors It looks like a toy compared to the rest.Just needs pink tassles on the bar ends,a bell,sporky dorkies and stabalizers.Ppl will be asking how long it takes to charge up 12v or 24v Id go yam first.Then any of the rest cos they look like a "real bike" leaving the fugly cbr last. I completely agree. Not that I'd be biased having a Yamaha............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butlergremlin Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 If this is to ride with L Plates just remember the rules while riding on a CBT:Light motorcycles with a cubic capacity not exceeding 125cc and a power output not exceeding 11kW (14.6bhp) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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