dimmers

Personally i'd take it back to the retailer under the sale of goods act (your contract for the goods is with the retailer, not the manufacturer).

Goods must last for a reasonable length of time, and 3 months isn't reasonable for such a product.

Under 6 months, the retailer has to prove that the fault wasn't inherent. After 6 months, you have to prove that it was.

So get in before 6 months, and legally speaking they don't have a leg to stand on, not that it should ever get that far.

I would still prefer to email Knoxx direct to see what kind of a response i get. I will also email the company i ordered the back protector from (Internet based company), to see what they have to say.

I doubt i will get very far with the emails, and if anything i might get offered a replacement back protector, trouble is i wouldn't want a replacement, i'd prefer my money back so i can buy a different brand of back protector (probably forcefield - wish i'd gone with them in the first place now).

I know (as it has already been said) that i could quite easily fix the problem myself and just get on with it, but it annoys me that a product that is quite expensive should just start to fall apart after 3 months of use! Especially something so important as a back protector!!! I thought Knoxx were suppose to be one of the leaders in their field today... apparently not (not in my opinion any more).

Yes it's a good idea, but the wole point is that you haven't had the back protector for very long and it's already falling apart!!

Now I kow I'm a grumpy old woman but I'd be taking it straight back to where it was bought from! This is supposed to be an important piece of safety kit but obviously isn't up to standard!!

+1.

The amount these items are (over)priced at, i expect no less than perfection.

Yeah, that is still kind of what i'm thinking, so may not do the thread lock thing just yet, as i'm considering writing a letter (or email) of complaint to Knoxx to see what kind of response i get.

To me, it just seems like a bad design now and i'm probably going to replace it with a forcefield back protector. Funny how something like this can turn you away from a company you had a lot of respect for.

I'm sure my letter of complaint won't get me anywhere, but it's worth a go, even if it is just to raise some awareness to Knoxx about the potential issue on this particular model back protector.

Hi, Take the screw back out and put a bit of thread lock or (super glue if you cant get any) on the treads of the screw, then screw it back in but not fully tightend, the thread lock will hold the screw in place and stop it from coming undone again. Has a curing time so read the label best to leave for 24hrs if you can.

good idea, cheers!

about 3 months is all

yeah, its not nice when things start falling apart like that!

Now i've sung the praises of this back protector from day 1, and have been very happy with it... up until now.

This morning, as i was getting my kit on ready for the commute in to work, something didn't feel right once i'd got my aegis back protector on. So i get my jacket off, and then take the aegis off. As soon as i do this, a bit of plastic falls off the bottom - the part above the spine protector!!!

after a quick look i can see that the screw has come out at the bottom, and due to this the things starts to fall apart! luckily i found another screw to replace it, so i screw it in nice and tight, job done... or so i thought.

turns out, the way this back protector works is by allowing the spine protector to move up and down a bit, so where it is screwed in at the top and bottom, the screws aren't done up tightly so as to allow the thing to move. Great idea in theory, until the bloody screw works its way loose and the thing starts to fall apart!

i'm really not impressed at all, and am tempted to write a complaint to Knoxx.

Just thought i'd let anyone know who was thinking of buying a back protector lately.

cheers

Planning on doing it in may, thought slimmer gloves would be easyer on the controls rather than bulky ones, what type of gloves do you wear. I like the alpinestar gp plus gloves but there abit pricey. maybe one day

i've got a pair of these...

http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/51983

great value for money.

Gloves in your first post look ok, but can't really comment as i've no idea on the spec.

i ride in a short jacket, but is does zip to my trousers. All down to personal choice really.

no limit.... then it's got to be this helmet

http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/63110

 

Nah, no limit its got to be THIS!

http://www.hein-gericke.co.uk/shop/prod ... ts_id/8818

thanks for posting guys. so maybe this weekend al go out hunting for the perfect lid i have no limit to what i can spend on a lid i just thought why pay 200-400 pound more for a lid thats going to do the same as a 60-150. so im feeling that the comfort is Key to everybody so i will not buy until i find a suitable fit for my Nogging, plus all the lids ive ever worn have been bought to fit some one else off when i was younger on quads/bikes/carts. and im looking for a snug fit? not tight not lose yeah? basicly common sence this could take soom time as im picky for looks aswell

cheers lads

scotty

no limit.... then it's got to be this helmet

http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/63110

http://www.themotorbikeforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=35420

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/content/helmet-safety-scheme

dark tint!

it's like.... riding a bike

I just bought the cat crap stuff, and find it to be f**king fantastic!!!

So cheap and easy to use, yet works brilliantly. Can't quote how long it lasts yet, but it easily works for at least an hour lmao. And with it being so handy, you can just carry it around with you. Perfection!!

i'm glad someone else has finally given this stuff a go! It really is good stuff. Even after applying a little bit every other day, it hardly looks like i've used any from the tub, can easily see this lasting me quite a few months.

might pay you to look at the site

http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/content/helmet-safety-scheme

Absorb the info. Pay particular attention to way the tests reflect or do not reflect the liklihood of 'real world' accidents and damage.

Personally speaking, I look at SHARP ratings last. Fit, comfort, noise levels and stuff all comes first. But then I started buying helmets before any of this malarky. It has its merits but personally I am concerned that some of the cheaper helmets can be made to peform well in the test and not perform so well in the real world. For that reason I will continue to buy established brands and listen to people and motorcycling articles rather than results from a 'test'.

I agree with you on this, and it seems a lot of other people are of the same opinion (different forums).

I just found another helmet (by Box) which cost £54, and has the same Sharp rating as mine. Now this may sound stupid, but i just don't know if i could wear a helmet which cost so little, even if it does perform well in these Sharp tests.

Maybe i'm wrong, and it's a great helmet, and i've been tricked to think all these years that really good quality products should automatically come with a high price tag?

i've been searching around on Google, and have come across some information that says a similar thing, in that the fit is probably the most important thing. Also, that some of the cheaper helmets are just designing their helmets to do very well in the Sharp tests, but don't actually consider things like visibility whilst wearing the helmet, or comfort, or noise levels.

I'm still a bit confused, i always though Arai were one of the top brands for bike helmets, and a lot of people swear by them. I've never heard of anyone saying that i should buy a Nitro helmet before!?!? Yet it got a 5 star Sharp rating!

I've tried to do a search on this but not really come up with anything, so if anyone knows of an old post discussing this already then please can you post the link - thanks.

anyway, i'm looking to buy a helmet for my girlfriend, and have come across quite a few of the more 'budget' helmets getting a better Sharp star rating than my Arai helmet.

What's going on here? Am i missing something? The Nitro Aikido helmet for example gets a 5/5 star Sharp rating and only costs around £70

Why are the cheaper brands getting higher ratings than some of the leading (and much more expensive) brands?

cheers

well done!!!

Most two piece suits normally have a 360deg. or half zip that attaches the jacket to the trousers, basically making it a one piece. These are done in bothe leather and textile. As Susie says, a good waterproof one piece for when it`s raining will sort out the bad weather aspect.

i wear a 2 piece RST jacket / trouser combo, and the jacket attaches to the trousers by a 360 deg zip. Good piece of kit and keeps me dry, and fits over my work clothes. Also has armour in the knees, shoulder and elbow. Cost less than 200 quid new.

don't most boots have an extra piece of material over the toe area? my boots have got a hard piece of rubber over the area of the toe that you use to change gear.

other than what you're already doing, i doubt there is much else you can do to your boots other than keep applying the waterproofing stuff.

(or buy a new pair of boots

Passed it that time.

Can't get a mod 2 date until 2 days after my CBT runs out.

outfuckingstanding.

well done!

keep trying for cancellations?

No, there is no reason to filter during your mod 2. The more time you waste spent sitting in traffic, the less time you have on your test (which is a good think i guess as less time for anything to go wrong).

i've not heard of anyone failing for not filtering in traffic

Thanks Mikey. Any idea what bike you want yet?

 

Nope - but I'm enjoying the trying out lots of different bikes. I do really like the XJ6 Diversion, it's so comfortable and easy to ride. hated getting on my YRB after an hour on that.

have you tried the Hornet yet? what do you think?

go to all bikes in rochdale, i got £40 quid knocked off some vertigo s when i told them i could get them for a certain price online,

 

Sean is a mate of mine so i get quite good ish deals so they are pretty good

~Tried the boots on at the Rocket centre, 45's too large as they never had 44's in; they felt like putting your feet in a pair of slippers compared to my current boots, beautiful. Fingers crossed these will be ok for brand new, if i can get them for under £80!

under £80 for these boots new is a bargain! they are a really nice boot

Just as an update I passed my Mod 2 last week in Aylesbury. So relieved as I had to come up specially to take it before going back down to Devon again. Have managed to get hold of a cheap honda pan european which I will be riding very cautiously until I am used to it and will then try the motorways on it.

All in all very happy and a big thumbs up to Ron and the instructors at ERT in Hemel Hempstead. Would thoroughly recommend them.

congrats mate! well done, great feeling isn't it?

congrats! all the best for mod 2!

congratulations