Ricco1 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I have my mod 1 tomorrow.I remember from my cbt, when carrying out slow manouevres, my instructor told me to use plenty of revs, clutch control, and the back brake, all together. Personally, and I've ridden bikes for many years, I find it easier to use finer clutch control at close to tickover revs, and rarely use the back brake.Will I be marked down for riding in this way? Also, I tend to wobble a little bit when doing these things, will the examiner expect that, or mark me down?Also, I find it easier to do the slalom and figure of eight at a slightly higher speed than I've seen on many utube videos. This rules out the wobbles. Would the examiner fail me for going too fast, if I have good control? Is this something I could perhaps ask the examiner, before I do the exercise?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealexme Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 as for slow maneuvers, I dont think it matters what technique you use as long as you are in control of the bikeAlthough I havent done my mod1 yet, so am not really in a position to answer that lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogof Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Will I be marked down for riding in this way? Also, I tend to wobble a little bit when doing these things, will the examiner expect that, or mark me down?Would the examiner fail me for going too fast, if I have good control? Is this something I could perhaps ask the examiner, before I do the exercise? No you won't get marked down for that, wobbles are expected and not a problem so long as you don't drop a foot during the exercise.The key is good control. Do the exercise at the speed you feel comfortable with.I wouldn't ask him personally, since you should know the answer to these questions if you have prepared properly (sufficient training etc) for the test. If you have to ask, he might just decide that you're not ready for a pass until your instructor spends more time with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon83 Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 you won't be marked down if you barley use the back brake but you could fail for going to fast. its aimed at doing it at walking pace or just above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogof Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 you won't be marked down if you barley use the back brake but you could fail for going to fast. its aimed at doing it at walking pace or just above Since when? All they're interested in is whether you do it under full control at all times. Speed is largely irrelevant other than if it becomes a safety issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olidavey Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 Someone I saw got a minor for going too fast. The idea is that you are demonstrating slow speed control. I reckon if you wobble a bit, dependent on examiner you may pick up a minor. Practice a lot then you wont wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricco1 Posted August 15, 2011 Author Share Posted August 15, 2011 Thanks for the replies. I can't refer to my instructor, I don't have one, I'm doing this independently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecat Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 personally i used to do what you do, with close to tickover revs and little brake, but to be honest , whenh i mastered using much more revs and the brake it was much more stable and less wobbly, up to you tho, do what works for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I don't think you need to worry about wobbling, so long as you don't put a foot down. As for the speed of the figures of eight/slalom, I would have thought that so long as you are in full control it shouldn't matter - but these manouevres are in the slow part at the start of the test so not 100% sure! It might just depend on the examiner - I wouldn't have thought they could fail you but at the worst may be a minor?Best of luck for tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiisecondcreep Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 you won't be marked down if you barley use the back brake but you could fail for going to fast. its aimed at doing it at walking pace or just above Since when? All they're interested in is whether you do it under full control at all times. Speed is largely irrelevant other than if it becomes a safety issue. This, my instructor actually told me that it is easier to go slightly faster as the bike would be more stable and less wobbly. I was not marked down for going faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
getready Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I saw a few people when I was training doing mod1 slalom/slow speed manouvres at near tick-over revs with the engine knocking etc - doesn't sound or look very good.Get some revs on and slip the clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caretaker Posted August 15, 2011 Share Posted August 15, 2011 I saw a few people when I was training doing mod1 slalom/slow speed manouvres at near tick-over revs with the engine knocking etc - doesn't sound or look very good.Get some revs on and slip the clutch Yes, this is how I see it....They are looking for good safe control...keep the revs busy and slip the biting point of the clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith565 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 i used plenty of throttle, half clutch and loads of back brake, very little wobble and i was dead slow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhJay Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 If you keep the revs up you'll get some gyroscopic effect from the bits of the engine that are spinning that will help your stability and then it's all about using your clutch to control your speed. Always having a little bit of drive going through the wheel helps as well, if you suddenly pull the clutch right in half way round the turn you'll notice it start to fall over so keep it driving.I spent my first two lessons after my CBT on the school site learning this with my instructor constantly yelling "POWER" at me (no, I wasn't taught by Jeremy Clarkson) to make me keep the revs up and use the clutch better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricco1 Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 I used my low revs approach. Passed! Just marked down for one minor error, going through the speed trap at just 45 for the swerve. Thrashed my little Suzuki Gn the next time, just managed 51! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhocking Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Congrats!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon83 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 well done now onto mod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon83 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 well done now onto mod 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhJay Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Conga rats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricco1 Posted August 16, 2011 Author Share Posted August 16, 2011 Mod 2 next wednesday, everything crossed here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keith565 Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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