nman1 Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Feckin disgusting, and to be played in OUR country as well. Nuff saidhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15643295.stmAnd who should agree with me but.....http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/15652356 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 What's religious, political or commercial about wearing a poppy?? It's like wearing three lions is it not - for pride surely - more PC nonsense stripping our country of it's heritage, traditions and identity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 The thing what gets me about the whole thing is. FIFA won't even let the players wear a black armband with a poppy on. But if joe bloggs dies every team have black armbands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Whats more disrespectful to me is the very fact that the subject is being discussed. Who the hell would take offence at the wearing of a poppy and who the hell would THINK anyone would.Some people just don`t know how to justify their own feckin jobs. Tossers, sorry about language but this crap makes my blood boil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Dear Sepp,Look mate it's been 93 years and 66 years, that's a hell of a long time to hold a grudge !Oops OK I forgot 45 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remy Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Yet more ..http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... unday.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 To be honest, I don't see why the whole issue should be getting dragged into sport anyway.It has nothing to do with it.Sport should be kept for exactly that, things to do with the sport.Same with minutes silences etc as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Yet more ..http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... unday.htmlNo, that is in fact worse.The British Oylimpic committee must have approved this. I for one would strip him of his Knighthood for disrespecting those who served on this ship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Oh ffs. Come the revolution these twatting PC idiots will be put on a plane and shipped off to Iraq to see how they get on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mawsley Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 It's not about poppies - it's about marketing, logos and FIFAs control over shirt sponsorship. They are trying to ensure that they retain the power to control what appears on international kits which, for right or wrong, is the authority they have. Personally I'd have thought that, knowing how corrupt the entire organisation is, someone could have slipped them a tenner and been done with it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 They`re playing Spain so why not really piss em off and put posters up of this fine lady with the date below, although to be honest I doubt it is them that`s complaining as they are sent poppies to sell from the RBL1588 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 There is also something strangely ironic about the head of the British government moaning about this as well, considering if the same government took care of the people who sign up to the armed forces, then the charity wouldn't even be needed.And have England had poppies on their shirts in any previous years ?Have they even tried ? If not, why not ? And why just this year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Understand the point your making Ratser but my point is WHY the feck this issue was brought up in the first place.Who will it offend. ???Why will it offend if it does ???What harm will it do ????If anyone can personally answer "none" and "pass" to these questions then what the hell is it worth the hasttle for. Like I say, some bloody jobsworth trying to be difficult and justify his/her insignificant existance through elevating their profile, on what they know will be a highly publisised topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 More news, even the Germans don`t have an issuehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... -FIFA.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Official RBL response.http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/about-u ... -poppy-banA dignified response Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nman1 Posted November 9, 2011 Author Share Posted November 9, 2011 Very dignified indeed Cruz, thanks for finding and posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 And have England had poppies on their shirts in any previous years ?Have they even tried ? If not, why not ? And why just this year ?Because this year is the 90th anniversary of the creation of The British Legion in 1921, granted a Royal Charter in 1971 on its 50th anniversary thus becoming The Royal British Legion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Understand the point your making Ratser but my point is WHY the feck this issue was brought up in the first place.Who will it offend. ???Why will it offend if it does ???What harm will it do ????If anyone can personally answer "none" and "pass" to these questions then what the hell is it worth the hasttle for. Like I say, some bloody jobsworth trying to be difficult and justify his/her insignificant existance through elevating their profile, on what they know will be a highly publisised topic. I think it is just UEFA policy mate.Unless the charity is the main sponsor of a club team (eg Barcelona, Aston Villa once before) then they don't allow additional badging on the shirts, no matter the cause or reason.My guess is the issue was brought up in the first place as it is the first time England have been due to play an international close to Remembrance Sunday. Either that or this is the first time they have ever applied to have the symbol on their shirts.Is it really such a big issue to get into a stooshy about though ? It wont disrespect the memory of the service men and women, and it's not as if it's the only time for Remembrance this week, at a friendly football match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 And have England had poppies on their shirts in any previous years ?Have they even tried ? If not, why not ? And why just this year ?Because this year is the 90th anniversary of the creation of The British Legion in 1921, granted a Royal Charter in 1971 on its 50th anniversary thus becoming The Royal British Legion. I get your point Cruz, and am obviously aware of your loyalty to the RBL.However did they do this for the 10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, etc ?I am just playing devils advocate here, as it's not really a big deal to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 f**ked if I know !How 'kin old do you think I am ? Joking aside, it is because of the importance of the 90th. And not something that would be done on a regular basis.And it makes no difference to me either, I think that it is a shame but that's life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 f**ked if I know !How 'kin old do you think I am ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 It's a commercial enterprise; they can do what they like. As if Cameron gives a toss about soldiers anyway, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 We aren't in a position to precisely judge what Cameron is thinking of our troops but I do agree commercialism at its best...It's alright to advertise mens balding products, sky, banks etc but the second it involves something non-profitable like remembering our dead from a world war which affected us all then thats just not on.Is it offensive... NoWhat I personally find piss funny is they wont let them wear a poppy out of concern they will offend someone. And the decision to not let them has offended a major majority Way to go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratser Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 We aren't in a position to precisely judge what Cameron is thinking of our troops but I do agree commercialism at its best...It's alright to advertise mens balding products, sky, banks etc but the second it involves something non-profitable like remembering our dead from a world war which affected us all then thats just not on.Is it offensive... NoWhat I personally find piss funny is they wont let them wear a poppy out of concern they will offend someone. And the decision to not let them has offended a major majority Way to go! No, they are not allowed to advertise on international jerseys mate.And having checked on my earlier question to Cruz, England did not apply to be allowed poppies on the jerseys for previous 'anniversaries'. (England 1 Sweden 1 2001 - Sat 10th Nov - no poppy or even black arm bands))Why they even feel the need to have them on the jerseys anyway is the sad part IMO.Thankfully in Scotland, last year was the last time the clubs were being forced to wear poppies on their shirts.Not sure how many opted to have them on their shirts this year, I just know my club didn't. Instead they donated £10,000 to the charity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruz Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Thankfully in Scotland, last year was the last time the clubs were being forced to wear poppies on their shirts.Not sure how many opted to have them on their shirts this year, I just know my club didn't. Instead they donated £10,000 to the charity. "The Legion never insists that the poppy be worn or insists that others allow it to be worn," said Mr Simpkins. "We are grateful when people wear it as a sign of respect, but the decision must be a free one - after all, the poppy represents sacrifices made in the cause of our freedoms."I'm pretty sure RBLS would have the same policy.Saddened a little that your club feel that it can't wear the Poppy. Without wanting to start a heated debate, if this is a sectarian thing then it is being used as a political football. That said Like Chris Simkins says no one can or indeed should be forced to wear the Poppy, I am also sure your clubs generous donation was gratefully received.The Poppy does tend to be represented as a British thing, but was orginally an American womans idea, which was taken up by a French woman in and then The British Legion in 1921. I felt priviledged to meet WW2 Vet's when I attended the first Royal British Legion Parade in Phoenix Park in Dublin a few years ago and to be allowed to see the many battle honours won by Irish Regiments in both World wars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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