Sure would hate to be a cop

[Valko]

Agree to disagree here. What risk to human life?? Does the dog was running with AK47 assault rifle? Are we talking here for The Hound of the Baskervilles??

I mean somebody scratch his bumper and they close M25 for 3 hours for gawd sake. And this is London here with 10 million cars per hour.

But no the Whales muppet keystone cops can't close a road and catch a dog with bare hands. Seriously

Few months ago I a guy has hit a cat in front of me. I am not a cop, but have closed the road with my 4x4 and the emergency lights. Got the cat luckily no damage only stressed out. Found the owners in nearby house.

My wife was like: why you have blocked the whole road? Because there are morons that is way.

If I alone and not a cop can do that why the muppets can't?

BTW I do not hate cops in general. I have many friends cops. I hate stupid people though.

If anybody is remotely interested what the law say about it:

1. The stupid owner must be prosecuted for endangering public safety. Yes by UK law the owner is fully responsible for any damages caused by his/her pet.

2. The particular cops must be prosecuted for criminal damage. Yes by UK law they have damaged somebody else property.

I think you'll find, should you read the article fully, that the hound in question was in fact scampering about with an armalite.

Why would you illegally block an entire road while you fannied about finding tiddles' owner? That does sound like a very silly thing to do.

 

Just to be clear I have blocked the road to recover the cat that was hit on the road. As soon as the cat was safe inside my car I've parked off road and than found the owners. If I can block safely busy London road how hard is for police with sirens etc. to block a road?

[Glorian]

Just to be clear then.

Police can't just DO whatever they please. They can't just sit there and "Oh i'll close a major road now" Usually requires authorisation. You also still seem to believe that closing a road is as simple as

*police car stops on 70mph road*

*Police car puts blue lights on*

*Nobody is tired and doesn't realise untill it's to late smashing into the police car*

[RantMachine]

We're perhaps missing the most important point, here:

Clearly the officers in question were on a mission of national importance. Poor old George Osbourne can't knock one off unless an innocent animal dies first, the police were only trying to help avoid any more terrible economic decisions made on the back of severe sexual frustration.

tone:lowered

[Fozzie]

Just count your stars it wasn't a pig otherwise Cameron would have launched a national enquiry.

As Glorian was a rozzer, I'm inclined to still think the cops did what they thought was best. It's also a shame they can't act without higher authorisation, just shows what a tight noose we have on them in this country.

[Glorian]

I always wanted to be in firearms squad.. When i realised that if they DO have to discharge their weapon they're placed on "administrative leave" one guy i knew was off work for several months. Its ridiculous.

[RantMachine]

Just count your stars it wasn't a pig otherwise Cameron would have launched a national enquiry.

Y'got me good with that one

I always wanted to be in firearms squad.. When i realised that if they DO have to discharge their weapon they're placed on "administrative leave" one guy i knew was off work for several months. Its ridiculous.

And ALL YOU WANTED TO DO was riddle a few Sinnis bikes with bullets. So goddamned unreasonable of them.

[MrBrightside]

I'll end it with this.

Do you genuinely think that someone who is a dog owner themselves would be frothing at the mouth to get into a vehicle and run down a dog down, just for the sake of it?

No.

Do you think they considered other options?

Yes.

Did they weigh those options up? And get advice from senior rank?

Yes.

We're the RSPCA immediately available?

No.

Did the coppers have poles with a noose on it?

No.

Had anyone been bitten?

Yes.

Can a human run as fast as a dog and catch one easily on a dual carriageway?

No (seriously?)

Is it easy to make armchair judgements?

Yes.

Do you think those officers feel bad about what they 'had' to do?

I guarantee it.

[Gin]

Pretty much..

I had written a post last night about the RSPCA maybe not being available but it came out to sound more like criticism against them as an organisation, which wasn't my intention, so I deleted it. However I doubt the police would have simply not contacted them at all to ask for assistance..

[Glorian]

Can a human run as fast as a dog and catch one easily on a dual carriageway?

No (seriously?)

 

 

Tee hee

[Valko]

I'll end it with this.

Do you genuinely think that someone who is a dog owner themselves would be frothing at the mouth to get into a vehicle and run down a dog down, just for the sake of it?

No.

Do you think they considered other options?

Yes.

Did they weigh those options up? And get advice from senior rank?

Yes.

We're the RSPCA immediately available?

No.

Did the coppers have poles with a noose on it?

No.

Had anyone been bitten?

Yes.

Can a human run as fast as a dog and catch one easily on a dual carriageway?

No (seriously?)

Is it easy to make armchair judgements?

Yes.

Do you think those officers feel bad about what they 'had' to do?

I guarantee it.

 

And this will be my last post on that as well:

No (seriously?) are the Welsh cops incapable of catching a dog?

2 options:

No: the question remains why they have not caught it than?

Yes: if they can't catch a dog they are not fit for purpose. How exactly you expect them to catch a criminal which granted must be clever than a dog. It is not about how fast you are if you are chasing your own tail.

[MrBrightside]

Do criminals have 4 legs, bark, and run as fast as a dog? No. If a dog doesn't want to get caught, it won't unless some kind of force is used or it is cornered.

So assuming this dog is a) pretty quick and b) not cornered, then it's not exactly gonna be easy is it. On a dual carriageway. At 3 am.

[Glorian]

Ever tried to catch a dog to bathe it..?

Good luck catching it when its scared then!

[Six30]

I blame the EU.

[Six30]

Ever tried to catch a dog to bathe it..?

Good luck catching it when its scared then!

 

Yup , you don't tell it your going to bath it, entice to tub with biscuits , shut the door ... Bath time Rover

[Glorian]

I blame the EU.

 

Gonna hit you with a fish

[Six30]

I blame the EU.

 

Gonna hit you with a fish

 

Only if it's a Haddock , I like the smell

[MrBrightside]

Put this on the xmas list six...

[rennie]

I can absolutely guarantee that no-one could

catch our dog until she wanted to be caught!

lets keep things friendly please people!

[TC1474]

To those that think that it is a simple job of the Police just closing off the carriageway, then before you make such uninformed observations I will tell you a little story.

Once upon a time I lost a brand new patrol car whilst dealing with a loose animal on the Motorway (M4 at Junction 10) it was about 2.30 in the morning and middle of summer. Now I accept that we were dealing with a horse rather than a dog, but the principle of closing the carrigeway off remains the same.

Anyway, we had the carriageway closed off, everything was lit up, blue lights front and rear, flashing rear fogs, Matrix signs were on for at least 3 miles prior to our location, and traffic flow was non existant.

Except for..........................The one car still out on the road t that time of night who decided to mate with our car to create a Ford Rover

The driver of the Ford did not see us, The driver of the car did not see a colleague a mile prior to our location giving advanced warning and was oblivious to the matrix signs.

The driver simply lost concentration because it was early in the morning and there was no traffic around.

My patrol car was totalled and there was not one panel that was not bent or broken (I admit that Rover SD1's were not the strongest built cars).

Anyway, the point of this post was that despite losing our patrol car (and fortunately we were not in it at the time otherwise it would have been a double fatality) for those that think that road can just be closed off, then go and spend a day with a Motorway crew (not Highways Traffic officers) and educate yourself.

I spent 18 months working the Motorway full time and whilst being a lot of fun, it is also one of the scariest places to work, and this can apply to any multi lane carriageway. I lost count of the number of near misses I saw, and how many people got wiped out in varying types of collision, and more to the point, the less traffic the higher the speeds the bigger the impact and the collisions.

This sort of proves the point

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/video/news/nea ... vi-BBq2YKe

[Joeman]

We need this on every gantry:

http://jalopnik.com/australias-water-cu ... -506915576

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--IdsWae2k--/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18ns53jc0ickcgif.jpg

[Valko]

Apparently not all cops are incompetent as the Welsh ones, here is fresh example of police catching a dog.

On M5 where there is way much more traffic than in rural Whales. My educated guess is the cops are cleverer too:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/647873/Police-close-motorway-catch-canine-dog-loose-carriageway

Edited March 1, 2016 by Valko

[Joeman]

what gets me about this incident is, that if the dog was acting predictably enough to be able to run it over deliberately, it was probably acting predictably enough to catch it.

im sure they will never share the in car footage...

[Glorian]

To explain how hard to actually close a road, when i did my training they spent 1 (possibly 2 or at least another half) days on training. I was trying to find a video they showed us of officers closing roads poorly and every time it pretty much caused a crash. Not the first person to not see it, but the person tailgating them. At 70 (yeah right we all go 70) your reaction time is not quick enough. And as TC said before at that time of morning.. people "Daydream" Drive...