Doofa57 Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I was about to change my oil but I noticed that ther is two bolts.1 what one is the drain plug .2 what is the other one .Thanks for any information. Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 It's the big hex head lower leftAlso make sure its not a right hand thread on it so trying to undo it as part lefty loosey righty tighty drain plugs are often the reverse of this Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 The other could be the filter housing, what bike? Quote
Doofa57 Posted June 4, 2019 Author Posted June 4, 2019 Bike is a keeway rks 125 It's not oil filter I know where that is Quote
Doofa57 Posted June 4, 2019 Author Posted June 4, 2019 I taken the big one out a spring and a thing like a golf tea droped out oil come out aswell. I have put the two things back in and replace the bolt. I then take out the smaller one and more oil came out. I think the spring and little T thing are something to do with the gears. Quote
fastbob Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I taken the big one out a spring and a thing like a golf tea droped out oil come out aswell. I have put the two things back in and replace the bolt. I then take out the smaller one and more oil came out. I think the spring and little T thing are something to do with the gears. So you figured it out yourself . I hope you put the spring and golf tee back in the right way up and in the right order . Well done. As a general rule the oil drain plug is usually situated at the lowest point of the engine . Quote
Doofa57 Posted June 4, 2019 Author Posted June 4, 2019 I am not sure if I put in the right way I didn't see it come out I just heard it I have been round the block it runs ok only thing was it's harder to get neutral. Quote
Smithers Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 It's the big hex head lower leftAlso make sure its not a right hand thread on it so trying to undo it as part lefty loosey righty tighty drain plugs are often the reverse of this Why would they put a left hand thread on a sump? Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 It's the big hex head lower leftAlso make sure its not a right hand thread on it so trying to undo it as part lefty loosey righty tighty drain plugs are often the reverse of this Why would they put a left hand thread on a sump? I'm not sure but I have definitely had one bike that had it Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 The spring and t shaped object are the gear selector detent. It's very common to undo them in mistake for the oil drain bolt - but the T shaped bit has to go back the right way round or getting neutral will be difficult.I've never had a reverse thread sump bolt but I've known lots of people think they that have because they see it undoing the wrong way round when seen from above. Always look at it from the underneath. Quote
fastbob Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I am not sure if I put in the right way I didn't see it come out I just heard it I have been round the block it runs ok only thing was it's harder to get neutral. That's no surprise ! This thing is what clicks into place when neutral is selected . Better get the oil pan out again ! Quote
fastbob Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 (edited) I am not sure if I put in the right way I didn't see it come out I just heard it I have been round the block it runs ok only thing was it's harder to get neutral. Ok , a bit of guesswork here ( ) but assuming that your engine is a knock off based on a Suzuki GN 125 I recon it goes together like this . I bet you put the spring in first . Edited June 4, 2019 by fastbob Quote
fastbob Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 The spring and t shaped object are the gear selector detent. It's very common to undo them in mistake for the oil drain bolt - but the T shaped bit has to go back the right way round or getting neutral will be difficult.I've never had a reverse thread sump bolt but I've known lots of people think they that have because they see it undoing the wrong way round when seen from above. Always look at it from the underneath. Too true , I always get another spare bolt and hold it next to the sump bolt and have a good long look at it before I undo it . Better safe than sorry . Quote
JRH Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 The spring and t shaped object are the gear selector detent. It's very common to undo them in mistake for the oil drain bolt - but the T shaped bit has to go back the right way round or getting neutral will be difficult.I've never had a reverse thread sump bolt but I've known lots of people think they that have because they see it undoing the wrong way round when seen from above. Always look at it from the underneath. Too true , I always get another spare bolt and hold it next to the sump bolt and have a good long look at it before I undo it . Better safe than sorry . I use a ratchet socket and set it to “undo” before using it on the sump plug. Quote
Gerontious Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I use a ratchet socket and set it to “undo” before using it on the sump plug. Simple as that. I reckon the vast majority of "problems" with sump plugs.. and they're not exactly rare: stripped threads, even cracked sumps is due to turning them the wrong way. evidence of this is to be read in this very thread with mention of reverse threads. Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted June 4, 2019 Posted June 4, 2019 I am not sure if I put in the right way I didn't see it come out I just heard it I have been round the block it runs ok only thing was it's harder to get neutral. Ok , a bit of guesswork here ( ) but assuming that your engine is a knock off based on a Suzuki GN 125 I recon it goes together like this . I bet you put the spring in first . What a lot of people do is to seat the 'top hat' bit so it sits inside the spring, which looks like it is meant to. It isn't - the spring sits underneath it so the upper section engages when you go for neutral. Quote
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