Beans Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Hi I want to fit a GPS device and rather than mess with the fairing I can get easy access to the battery by simply taking off the seat. Seems there is room for a fuzeblock type thingy. You know how challenged I am by mechanicing. I saw an Innov powerhub 2 that looks neat and tidy and cheaper than a fuzeblock but I can't work out how you connect devices to it. Rather than having connections to put the device wires into, it's got its own wires hanging out. Do you cut and splice these to each device that you add? And how does a single, shared ground wire work? Do you tap into the same ground wire with the ground wire from each device??https://innovv.co.uk/products/powerhub/Shall I just pay extra for the fuzeblock? Quote
Stu Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Not the cheapest way to go! By the looks of it it has 5 power outputs and one earth You can probably just earth to the frame of the bike anyway I have always fitted a fuse box run off a relay switched by the ignition much cheaper Quote
Beans Posted February 15, 2020 Author Posted February 15, 2020 I have always fitted a fuse box run off a relay switched by the ignition much cheaper If I knew how to, I would. I need somewhere to put the thin ends of this, they are like two hairs they are so thin Quote
Stu Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Its very easy to do and we would help But first off what sat nav is it? Quote
Beans Posted February 15, 2020 Author Posted February 15, 2020 Tomtom riderVersys 65 andClueless electrician Quote
raesewell Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 I have the Fuzeblock and it's been fitted to all of my bikes when I change bikes. The Fuzeblock has six outlets switched or unswitched the Innov is switched only and has only five outlets. They both do the job so it's your choice really.These will help with the wiring https://posi-connect.com/collections/alleasy to fit and reusable.Here is a link to the parent company with details of how to fit.https://www.posi-products.com/ Quote
Stu Posted February 15, 2020 Posted February 15, 2020 Tomtom riderVersys 65 andClueless electrician If you're only fitting the sat nav then find a switched live to tap in to The sat nav draws very little so you won't overload anything cost would be a few hours finding a switched live and soldering a connection Quote
Marino Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 I have always fitted a fuse box run off a relay switched by the ignition much cheaper If I knew how to, I would. I need somewhere to put the thin ends of this, they are like two hairs they are so thin4049462749696_ml.jpg Try to locate acc1 and acc2 cables, should be under the seat, I have them as well behind instrument cluster. Acc1 is always on while acc2 is on with ignition. Quote
Marino Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 If you don’t have those acc1 and 2 labelled cables, I will connect it to light switch Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Wiring....it all looks the bloody same, if it's any consolation beans I'd be in the same boat I'm hopeless with electrical stuff Quote
JRH Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Hi I want to fit a GPS device and rather than mess with the fairing I can get easy access to the battery by simply taking off the seat. Seems there is room for a fuzeblock type thingy. You know how challenged I am by mechanicing. I saw an Innov powerhub 2 that looks neat and tidy and cheaper than a fuzeblock but I can't work out how you connect devices to it. Rather than having connections to put the device wires into, it's got its own wires hanging out. Do you cut and splice these to each device that you add? And how does a single, shared ground wire work? Do you tap into the same ground wire with the ground wire from each device??https://innovv.co.uk/products/powerhub/Shall I just pay extra for the fuzeblock? Basically YES.Shared ground wire is just the same as connecting all the grounds to a single frame point or all back to the negative earth terminal.I just took a fused live to a relay. Relay being switched from the ignition so no time delay. Then from the switched Output into a terminal block like a chocky block, then separate fused feeds to each device. Then the negative from the devices to the nearest best grounded point.Not as fancy as the power hub but a dam sight cheaper. Quote
ThePhatomfart Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Just to add ,you do have an "Options" connector on your bike Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Just to add ,you do have an "Options" connector on your bikeOptions Connector.JPG ...do all bikes have one?? Quote
Beans Posted February 16, 2020 Author Posted February 16, 2020 Just to add ,you do have an "Options" connector on your bikeOptions Connector.JPG ...do all bikes have one??Who knows? These guys are trying to help but none of them get that we don't know anything about electrics Quote
Stu Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Just to add ,you do have an "Options" connector on your bikeOptions Connector.JPG ...do all bikes have one?? No they don't Quote
Stu Posted February 16, 2020 Posted February 16, 2020 Just to add ,you do have an "Options" connector on your bikeOptions Connector.JPG ...do all bikes have one??Who knows? These guys are trying to help but none of them get that we don't know anything about electrics We do get it but we are just trying to help you understand that it's not as scary as you think Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Just to add ,you do have an "Options" connector on your bikeOptions Connector.JPG ...do all bikes have one??Who knows? These guys are trying to help but none of them get that we don't know anything about electrics All I know is it contains magic and wizardry and that if it gets out your screwed Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 ...do all bikes have one??Who knows? These guys are trying to help but none of them get that we don't know anything about electrics We do get it but we are just trying to help you understand that it's not as scary as you think No its not scary just bloody complicated Quote
Beans Posted February 17, 2020 Author Posted February 17, 2020 £30 to get someone else to do it. Its a deal. Quote
ThePhatomfart Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 It's a shame there's no one who lives close to you, they could have sorted that for a pint Quote
skyrider Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Who knows? These guys are trying to help but none of them get that we don't know anything about electrics We do get it but we are just trying to help you understand that it's not as scary as you think No its not scary just bloody complicated its called electrickery Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 We do get it but we are just trying to help you understand that it's not as scary as you think No its not scary just bloody complicated its called electrickery No its wizardry Quote
raesewell Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Wiring accessories to a bike doesn't have to be scary, there are lots of instructional videos on Youtube. Quote
Beans Posted February 17, 2020 Author Posted February 17, 2020 Wiring accessories to a bike doesn't have to be scary, there are lots of instructional videos on Youtube.There are. And believe me it doesn't make it easier. I think there are a good few people who are never going to understand relays, splicing into a shared ground, tapping into a switched live, etc etc. I look down below the dash on the bike and there is a mass of wires, all sheathed in black, some wrapped together. And it's just a mass of wires.Given that some like me can't seem to learn this, the only useful video is one for the exact model of bike I own showing what to do, and probably sparing the details of why. Motorcycle manufacturers should take the blame, ultimately, it's ridiculous that we even have to ask. Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted February 17, 2020 Posted February 17, 2020 Wiring accessories to a bike doesn't have to be scary, there are lots of instructional videos on Youtube.There are. And believe me it doesn't make it easier. I think there are a good few people who are never going to understand relays, splicing into a shared ground, tapping into a switched live, etc etc. I look down below the dash on the bike and there is a mass of wires, all sheathed in black, some wrapped together. And it's just a mass of wires.Given that some like me can't seem to learn this, the only useful video is one for the exact model of bike I own showing what to do, and probably sparing the details of why. Motorcycle manufacturers should take the blame, ultimately, it's ridiculous that we even have to ask. Amen to that I couldn't have put it better myself Quote
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