jedibiker Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 What a week,,, anyway I thought I'd check the sprocket as I could see it was wet around there. I thought it was just off the chain even though its a few weeks since last lube. But its more like engine oil. What leaks around there? also, there was some little round rubber seals i can't find homes for. BUT .. the chain has little bits of rubber sticking out so could these other bits be O rings? still no idea for the extra oil.. (clutch return spring knackered too lol)Chain looks like I've never lubed it so I'm going to say I either don't do it enough or the monkey lube shit is shit. (shopping now for a new one) Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 What a week,,, anyway I thought I'd check the sprocket as I could see it was wet around there. I thought it was just off the chain even though its a few weeks since last lube. But its more like engine oil. What leaks around there? also, there was some little round rubber seals i can't find homes for. BUT .. the chain has little bits of rubber sticking out so could these other bits be O rings? still no idea for the extra oil.. (clutch return spring knackered too lol)Chain looks like I've never lubed it so I'm going to say I either don't do it enough or the monkey lube shit is shit. (shopping now for a new one) Looks like the o rings are shagged and could be output shaft seal is slightly weeping that would be only reason I could see there would be engine oil in that vicinity Quote
jedibiker Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 yeah thought that and think some o rings found there way near the front sprocket.. is it easy fitting a new chain or best to go to a garage?plus so many different prices online from £40 to £130 ish.https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/mc-parts/chains--sprockets_c53/model-specific-chains_c84/jt-525x1r-chain_pid-PM-0068706?v=25707&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhIP6BRCMARIsALu9Lfm7OfJnCef5C51XUUiYwoyFWbiyFKo58SzwhCWOg9VcsogJlq4m07QaAkayEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Quote
KiwiBob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 yeah thought that and think some o rings found there way near the front sprocket.. is it easy fitting a new chain or best to go to a garage?plus so many different prices online from £40 to £130 ish.https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/mc-parts/chains--sprockets_c53/model-specific-chains_c84/jt-525x1r-chain_pid-PM-0068706?v=25707&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhIP6BRCMARIsALu9Lfm7OfJnCef5C51XUUiYwoyFWbiyFKo58SzwhCWOg9VcsogJlq4m07QaAkayEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds This will show you how to change chain and sprockets ... Quote
Guest Swagman Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 yeah thought that and think some o rings found there way near the front sprocket.. is it easy fitting a new chain or best to go to a garage?plus so many different prices online from £40 to £130 ish.https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/mc-parts/chains--sprockets_c53/model-specific-chains_c84/jt-525x1r-chain_pid-PM-0068706?v=25707&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhIP6BRCMARIsALu9Lfm7OfJnCef5C51XUUiYwoyFWbiyFKo58SzwhCWOg9VcsogJlq4m07QaAkayEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Wouldn’t buy anything cheap chain and sprocket wise, get something decent will last longer. Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 yeah thought that and think some o rings found there way near the front sprocket.. is it easy fitting a new chain or best to go to a garage?plus so many different prices online from £40 to £130 ish.https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/mc-parts/chains--sprockets_c53/model-specific-chains_c84/jt-525x1r-chain_pid-PM-0068706?v=25707&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhIP6BRCMARIsALu9Lfm7OfJnCef5C51XUUiYwoyFWbiyFKo58SzwhCWOg9VcsogJlq4m07QaAkayEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Wouldn’t buy anything cheap chain and sprocket wise, get something decent will last longer. I used to buy cheap bits all the time and they are made from inferior materials imo so go for something you have heard of or on recommendation Quote
jedibiker Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 yeah thought that and think some o rings found there way near the front sprocket.. is it easy fitting a new chain or best to go to a garage?plus so many different prices online from £40 to £130 ish.https://www.xlmoto.co.uk/mc-parts/chains--sprockets_c53/model-specific-chains_c84/jt-525x1r-chain_pid-PM-0068706?v=25707&gclid=Cj0KCQjwhIP6BRCMARIsALu9Lfm7OfJnCef5C51XUUiYwoyFWbiyFKo58SzwhCWOg9VcsogJlq4m07QaAkayEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds Wouldn’t buy anything cheap chain and sprocket wise, get something decent will last longer. I used to buy cheap bits all the time and they are made from inferior materials imo so go for something you have heard of or on recommendationwhos any good Quote
fastbob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Have a look at the rubber guide at the front of your swinging arm near the front sprocket. I suspect it's probably got quite deep grooves worn in it caused by the chain rubbing . It's likely to be this that has attacked the O rings . That and running without chain lube . Quote
jedibiker Posted August 22, 2020 Author Posted August 22, 2020 Have a look at the rubber guide at the front of your swinging arm near the front sprocket. I suspect it's probably got quite deep grooves worn in it caused by the chain rubbing . It's likely to be this that has attacked the O rings . That and running without chain lube . il check that guide cheers.. i do lube it but realise i must have left it longer than usual Quote
fastbob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Have a look at the rubber guide at the front of your swinging arm near the front sprocket. I suspect it's probably got quite deep grooves worn in it caused by the chain rubbing . It's likely to be this that has attacked the O rings . That and running without chain lube . il check that guide cheers.. i do lube it but realise i must have left it longer than usual The biggest problem with O and X ring chains , in my opinion , is that they are fine to start off with but as time goes by and wear sets in , nobody notices . This is because the O rings effectively silence any rattles and make the links appear stiff when in fact they are worn well beyond what would be considered acceptable on a normal chain . I've seen a chain with grooves worn into the pins it was so bad , but at first glance it seemed fine . Quote
Stu Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Clutch push rod seals are common for going on Suzuki's Easy fix and usually worn due to crap on the push rod Quote
Guest Swagman Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Wouldn’t buy anything cheap chain and sprocket wise, get something decent will last longer. I used to buy cheap bits all the time and they are made from inferior materials imo so go for something you have heard of or on recommendationwhos any goodDID chains are good. Quote
jedibiker Posted August 23, 2020 Author Posted August 23, 2020 Clutch push rod seals are common for going on Suzuki's Easy fix and usually worn due to crap on the push rod how easy lol might as well do it if so, but maybe do output shaft seal at same time.. if sprocket will come off, hear they are tough cookies. Quote
Stu Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Clutch push rod seals are common for going on Suzuki's Easy fix and usually worn due to crap on the push rod how easy lol might as well do it if so, but maybe do output shaft seal at same time.. if sprocket will come off, hear they are tough cookies. Usually a metal retaining ring with one bolt and it all pops out Quote
jedibiker Posted August 24, 2020 Author Posted August 24, 2020 Clutch push rod seals are common for going on Suzuki's Easy fix and usually worn due to crap on the push rod how easy lol might as well do it if so, but maybe do output shaft seal at same time.. if sprocket will come off, hear they are tough cookies. Usually a metal retaining ring with one bolt and it all pops out good to know cheers Quote
jedibiker Posted August 24, 2020 Author Posted August 24, 2020 whats baffling me most, is one site will say i need a 525 chain and my chain does have 525 on it, then on wemoto etc it will say i need a 530.Guessing this is why chain and sprocket kits are best? Quote
fastbob Posted August 24, 2020 Posted August 24, 2020 whats baffling me most, is one site will say i need a 525 chain and my chain does have 525 on it, then on wemoto etc it will say i need a 530.Guessing this is why chain and sprocket kits are best? They are offering a 530 conversion . So long as you are changing the sprockets as well , it's fine . Slightly stronger too . Quote
jedibiker Posted August 24, 2020 Author Posted August 24, 2020 chain and sprockets ordered. will do seals at same time.. do i need to drain oil to do output shaft seal?[mention]Richzx6r[/mention] Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted August 25, 2020 Posted August 25, 2020 chain and sprockets ordered. will do seals at same time.. do i need to drain oil to do output shaft seal?@Richzx6r I would hazard a guess at yes as it's an oil seal that you are changing I believe....but I could be wrong Quote
jedibiker Posted August 25, 2020 Author Posted August 25, 2020 chain and sprockets ordered. will do seals at same time.. do i need to drain oil to do output shaft seal?@Richzx6r I would hazard a guess at yes as it's an oil seal that you are changing I believe....but I could be wrongI thought so but wasnt sure if the oil level would be lower etc. Good excuse to get an oil change in and do it all. Quote
jedibiker Posted August 28, 2020 Author Posted August 28, 2020 new JT sprockets and DID chain arrived. Front sprocket looks very different to old though, has rubber on both sides. looked online and that model defo for my bike. guess there are alot of varients Quote
Old-codger Posted August 28, 2020 Posted August 28, 2020 Some sprockets have rubber on both sides its ment to cut noise from the chain but whether you will notice it hard to tell. Quote
jedibiker Posted August 29, 2020 Author Posted August 29, 2020 Some sprockets have rubber on both sides its ment to cut noise from the chain but whether you will notice it hard to tell. yeah seems its how they were sent from factory when new. all good as long as it fits. Quote
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