Switched relay

[jedibiker]

I was going to do a post but Il ask here.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a switch relay so so I can change how my heated grips are wired.

 

thankyou

[husoi]

like this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-sets-Waterproof-integrated-12v-40A-4pin-auto-relay-and-relay-holder-/251534653445

[jedibiker]

11 minutes ago, husoi said:

like this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-sets-Waterproof-integrated-12v-40A-4pin-auto-relay-and-relay-holder-/251534653445

I dont know lol.. looks like something I need. must be some uk ones though Im sure.:)

[husoi]

Thats a relay, if you have the heated grips they would have a switch already.

Unless you want both.

[Stu]

16 minutes ago, jedibiker said:

I was going to do a post but Il ask here.

Can anyone point me in the direction of a switch relay so so I can change how my heated grips are wired.

 

thankyou

 

I think you should have started a new thread as there is many many ways you could accomplish it and I am sure plenty of people will give you ideas 

 

Want me to split it? 

[husoi]

Risking becoming an easy candidate to TOTY I can't see why it should be posted separately. 

Heated grips are part of gadgets too  

[jedibiker]

7 minutes ago, Stu said:

 

I think you should have started a new thread as there is many many ways you could accomplish it and I am sure plenty of people will give you ideas 

 

Want me to split it? 

yes please

[Stu]

There you go  

 

As I have said already there is a number of ways that you can achieve what you're after 

 

You can buy dedicated units that are expensive but usually pretty easy to wire in 

 

Or you can buy just a simple relay and attach to a switched live and a feed from the battery 

 

Or you can buy a relay and make a connection point for more than just the heated grips to future proof it thats pretty much the same as above just with more connections 

 

 

[jedibiker]

Just now, Stu said:

There you go  

 

As I have said already there is a number of ways that you can achieve what you're after 

 

You can buy dedicated units that are expensive but usually pretty easy to wire in 

 

Or you can buy just a simple relay and attach to a switched live and a feed from the battery 

 

Or you can buy a relay and make a connection point for more than just the heated grips to future proof it thats pretty much the same as above just with more connections 

 

 

thanks mate.. just need links or brands to look for.. thanks for the help

[Stu]

This is what I have 

 

https://www.cosmo-accessories.com/products/suzuki/dl-650-v-strom-2004-2011/relay-pcb-board-147-272-276-detail 

 

You need three wires a live earth and a switched live and can have up to 4 circuits and switched independently if you wanted to 

[Bender]

What are you trying to achieve how do they work now and how do you want them you work? 

[JRH]

@stu maybe this diagram should be a sticky as folk often ask about switching aux equipment.

 

USB socket can be any item.

 

 

 

Edited January 26, 2021 by JRH

[Stu]

37 minutes ago, JRH said:

@stu maybe this diagram should be a sticky as folk often ask about switching aux equipment.

 

USB socket can be any item.

 

 

 

 

Might be a good idea! 

 

maybe we should start some how to's and we could link them in one thread? 

[Shepherd]

16 minutes ago, Stu said:

 

Might be a good idea! 

 

maybe we should start some how to's and we could link them in one thread? 

That sounds good for an inexperienced wannabe spanner monkey like me 

[jedibiker]

16 hours ago, Stu said:

This is what I have 

 

https://www.cosmo-accessories.com/products/suzuki/dl-650-v-strom-2004-2011/relay-pcb-board-147-272-276-detail 

 

You need three wires a live earth and a switched live and can have up to 4 circuits and switched independently if you wanted to 

That looks brilliant to be fair. Ive a usb port wired to batter too so more than one would be ideal.

[jedibiker]

14 hours ago, Bender said:

What are you trying to achieve how do they work now and how do you want them you work? 

Simply only be able to switch on grips etc when the ignition is on.. The posts provided have explained exactly that.. I needed to know which products would do the job and like the one @Stu sent over.

[jedibiker]

9 hours ago, JRH said:

@stu maybe this diagram should be a sticky as folk often ask about switching aux equipment.

 

USB socket can be any item.

 

 

 

Totally agree a Sticky would be ideal. I searched first and just wrote on a post about gadgets. On google I didnt find much either apart from bits in other forums, alot only visable if a member. So, some how toos here would be cool. Usual stuff like this and repeated topics. Puncture repair etc..

[jedibiker]

So, I have a relay on the way and other bits n bobs for neat wiring. So one bike is getting that done.

 

I also saw a video of someone just wiring the power cable from the grips into a already switched live cable, like rear light for example. Wouldn't that be a simpler solution? I have 2 bikes to wire so may try that on the other, unless there is a reason why we don't.

[husoi]

2 minutes ago, jedibiker said:

So, I have a relay on the way and other bits n bobs for neat wiring. So one bike is getting that done.

 

I also saw a video of someone just wiring the power cable from the grips into a already switched live cable, like rear light for example. Wouldn't that be a simpler solution? I have 2 bikes to wire so may try that on the other, unless there is a reason why we don't.

The issue in wiring from the lights is that you would be using the dedicated fuse. Other than that shouldn't be a problem

[jedibiker]

6 minutes ago, husoi said:

The issue in wiring from the lights is that you would be using the dedicated fuse. Other than that shouldn't be a problem

The power cable as its own fuse, but I realise that may be higher than a light fuse. I also guess the relay system just avoids messing with the bikes wiring. Its all new to me so enjoying looking into it.

[husoi]

You will have a relay i the relays box, normally opposite side of battery, that is the ignition main relay. That one will go active when the key is turned on.

That's the ideal place to connect a new relay.

To find it, if you're not experienced, remove the cover and you would hear a click when the ignition goes on, that's the relay activating  

[husoi]

10 minutes ago, jedibiker said:

The power cable as its own fuse, but I realise that may be higher than a light fuse. I also guess the relay system just avoids messing with the bikes wiring. Its all new to me so enjoying looking into it.

The problem in wiring a relay from a light wire is that light wire will be fused at 10 or 15A although is not a problem for the small current on the relay coil (less than 1A), if there is a fault on the relay you will be left without that(those) light(s).

Hence is always better to wire it from the proper place

[jedibiker]

40 minutes ago, husoi said:

The problem in wiring a relay from a light wire is that light wire will be fused at 10 or 15A although is not a problem for the small current on the relay coil (less than 1A), if there is a fault on the relay you will be left without that(those) light(s).

Hence is always better to wire it from the proper place

Hi, we have crossed wires (pardon the pun). I will be wiring a relay on one bike via the battery as per the diagram above. So its got its own relay and will be placed with or near the other relays.

The other way, is to locate a switched live wire, and splice into it. But I know its not ideal if the fuse is lower than that of the heated grips.

[Stu]

8 hours ago, jedibiker said:

I also saw a video of someone just wiring the power cable from the grips into a already switched live cable, like rear light for example. Wouldn't that be a simpler solution?

 

while it is a simpler solution its not one I would opt for! 

 

Bike wiring particularly on Suzuki's is notorious for being a bit on the puny side and sometimes not even enough to carry the loads required! 

 

So adding more to it like heated grips and you could end up with more then heated grips! like a big fire 

 

Play it safe and relay it with a dedicated power supply