Fail? Using 'wrong foot' on Mod 2 test

[megaross]

On 11/09/2023 at 20:37, Capt Sisko said:

Going slightly off topic but still related, my R1250RT has an automatic hill control hold brake. On a slope of 5% or greater it'll automatically apply the rear brake and hold it until the clutch bites and off you go. You can also apply it manually if you want to. My car, a run of the mill Toyota has something very similar.

 

Okay, flash git you say, not many learners ride a top spec BMW, but the point is this technology will filter down and eventually be on learner bikes. So, if a learner turns up with a hill hold equipped bike and doesn't need to do the old Hendon Shuffle, what happens? 

They're passing a test to ride all bikes not just ones with hill hold. What do you think?

 

ABS became mandatory years ago, I've still yet to own a bike with ABS. That's why you're taught proper braking technique lets say - safety net on some machines does not mean you can deskill the operator.

Edited September 21, 2023 by megaross

[RideWithStyles]

Agree with Megaross and bender.

Hill holder is a nice first level safety net /feature just like ABS is.
It is viewed as not to be outright dependent on it incase it pops a fuse or just decides to not work, after all if fails on a car its not generally bad but if a bike system fails and the rider can't do a hill start...at best a-fall over accident will happen.

 

the rear brake...one less thing for the hands to do plus the rear brake has a softer, has a smoother action for releasing or if it gets held for slightly longer than ideal if it gets abit fluffed up for new riders.

Racers are different an quite happy to kill a clutch for every race session and to which point the quote could be a reference to a different topic as the same with it was for schwantz back in the day ie ref to he never used the rear brake "for slowing down to corner entry"...

 

Learning and training now is more focused on trying to avoid having to use them in the first place, looking for and predicting possible outcomes while on the road to reduce the likelihood of needing them in the first place which is a good thing.