Rant of the day.

[bud]

She sounds like a real idiot. Don't let it wind you up if you can help it. It's people like this that get off on causing a problem. And getting people's backs up.

[bonio]

I used to get so wound up about stuff like this at work @Fozzie. I've seen far worse too. In the end, I realised that the best place to be was on the bottom rung of the ladder, where people actually did the work, and that there at least they paid me the same whether they listened to me or not, whether I was in favour or out.

In my experience jobs are 95% about politics, 4% ability and 1% actual data and facts. I may have overestimated the ability bit. In this case, she's got more political clout than your managers, and they know what you don't know, which is that in a head to head they will come off worse. The facts can't help them.  

[billysugger]

We all say "it's a job," but it's the job that pays the bills and puts food on the table.

A few years back I had a boss with no man management skills whatsoever, (he was  sideways promoted from an inspection role to be a supervisor, after they decided to "retire" our former boss).

Anyway, we had a few arguments over how I did things,because they didn't meet his interpretation of procedure.

Amongst the worse, I ended up in the office because a job I was doing I did right handed, yet to him it was the wrong way, because he showed me how he wanted it done, left handed, which I am not.

The managers response? " you know what he's like, just put up with him". I'm sorry, but no, I won't just put up with it, he's an ar*ehole.

After a couple of more incidents I actually hit him.it was one punch, with the palm of the hand rather than a fist, and knocked him flying. End result, voluntarily leave or face charges for assault, I chose to leave.

Nobody has the right to treat me like a bit of dirt on their shoe, and @Fozzie doesn't deserve the  crap he's getting  either 

 

Edited April 9 by billysugger
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[Mississippi Bullfrog]

There are three roads from our village that connect with the town where our sailing club is. Today the genius planners who co-ordinate roadworks managed to close all three roads simultaneously.  

[Fiddlesticks]

2 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

There are three roads from our village that connect with the town where our sailing club is. Today the genius planners who co-ordinate roadworks managed to close all three roads simultaneously.  

Didn't this happen once before?

[Fozzie]

22 hours ago, billysugger said:

We all say "it's a job," but it's the job that pays the bills and puts food on the table.

A few years back I had a boss with no man management skills whatsoever, (he was  sideways promoted from an inspection role to be a supervisor, after they decided to "retire" our former boss).

Anyway, we had a few arguments over how I did things,because they didn't meet his interpretation of procedure.

Amongst the worse, I ended up in the office because a job I was doing I did right handed, yet to him it was the wrong way, because he showed me how he wanted it done, left handed, which I am not.

The managers response? " you know what he's like, just put up with him". I'm sorry, but no, I won't just put up with it, he's an ar*ehole.

After a couple of more incidents I actually hit him.it was one punch, with the palm of the hand rather than a fist, and knocked him flying. End result, voluntarily leave or face charges for assault, I chose to leave.

Nobody has the right to treat me like a bit of dirt on their shoe, and @Fozzie doesn't deserve the  crap he's getting  either 

 

 

I think both you and Rennie are right respectively. It is just a job in that there are others I could walk into and no one job is worth your health. But equally you're right in that we shouldn't be treated like crap just because we have bills to pay. I'm going to have to work to find some kind of balance.

 

I've actually got a story where I nearly punched a manager nearly 10 years back. Bully type with a HR record to match. After 18 months of a weird cat and mouse game where I avoided him, he got me to crack on something and hold my ground. I remained calm through his rant and kept things professional, but the moment he laid hands on me to force me back from my desk, it instantly changed the situation. I thought I would be getting sacked, so chose to make my full feelings clear to the overall manager in a heated 2 hour exchange. I was moved to a different department, then promoted 3 months later (to a role the last manager had been dangling in front of me like a carrot). 

 

I've had very few dramas since then. I know I'm not very compatible with office politics, as I'm also bad with social politics. So I abstain from it as much as I can. 

[billysugger]

I also had a near miss, several years back at the tender age of 21. I was learning machine setting on auto lathes, but the company closed down, leaving about 700 out of work. I was lucky in the fact I had seen it coming so had sourced a replacement job for a very small engineering firm, where I was supposed to be continuing my training. Well, I ended up with a right nobhead for a instructor. Now, no-one expects to start at the top in a job, but neither do you expect to be a lackey, which is exactly what I became. Instead of learning the machines, (which, incidentally I was quite capable of setting on my own) I was reduced to sweeping up, correcting  his mistakes or fetching him a bacon roll from a local cafe, when he turned up late to work. After one incident where he told me to sweep up before I left work, another colleague had cottoned on to what was going on, told me to go home and he would sort it. Next morning, true to form nob turns up late, then starts ranting the place is a tip, until the colleague said that he did the cleaning last night and if he's got anything to say  to say it to him. Oh the look on nobs face was a picture, but it only made matters worse. I reported him to the two owners, and requested they do something about the situation. We both got called to their office, where I gave my account of what was happening, in front of nobhead so he knew what was going on. After I'd finished I was asked to wait outside, and I could hear most of the conversation. The upshot, he's yelling if you do anything he will quit, and they would be in the shit without him, etc. They called me back in and gave their lame excuses as to nothing was going to happen to him so  told them both to grow a pair, and I was not going to stay and accept the status quo, so I  walked out

Edited April 9 by billysugger
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[Mississippi Bullfrog]

8 hours ago, Fiddlesticks said:

Didn't this happen once before?

Last time they closed two roads and held a traffic survey on the third. When I filtered to the front and told the police officer that the other two roads were closed so the traffic survey was A) causing chaos, and B) completely unrepresentative of usual traffic he called itnoff.