Buses are waaaay more demoralising than trains! Trains you're actually getting somewhere fast and are comfortable and around generally a nicer-caliber of people. Buses are generally full of stinking, horrible people, tw@ttish teens and young kids being larey and talking/playing loudly on their phones, drunks, chavs, old people bitching & moaning, homeless people or generally stinking horrible people in dirty clothes etc etc. And there's obv something about me that says "Oh, hi weirdo - please come sit next to me and tell me about your immense life story that is blatently 90% lies that I don't care about!". Tho tbf I've had the occasional nice chat with some people on the bus - my favourite convo was when I was on crutches carrying my new motorbike helmet with a nice old man who told me all about his biking days. Used to haaaaaaate getting buses, did so for many years and had to get a good few while I was off my bike...which annoyed me even more cos I was having to sit with people as described for about £6.50 for a return journey when I only wanted to go 10 miles into Cambridge...and 140/150 miles costs me a tenner on my 125! Oh, and to get to the hospital that is less than 10 mins away by motorbike took me 2.5 HOURS to get to EACH WAY! (bus times didn't coencide with eah other so had to wait in a cafe inbetween)! So I ended up paying £40 for hospital trips by taxi on many occasions (they charged me loads more cos they were coming out of Cambridge to our random village). Anyway, rant over; what are ya hoping to get? It's amazing how quick you can pull some dosh together when desperate and try reeeeeally hard. When Ollie & I got engaged I was still almost £2k into my student overdraft & managed to put aside £3-400 a month despite earning much less than I do now (not that I earn a lot, but you get what I mean). I was always bad at managing money before getting married tho. Selling stuff on fleabay and Gumtree was a big help too . Good luck with the scrimping & saving - you'll get there I'm hoping to save money for a new engine in my bike because I was idiotic and didn't check oil levels I have nothing I want to sell, it all has its use so I can't/won't sell it And the money I spend on trains I could put towards my bike I need 600 in a week well less to give then time to fit it, then money for the rally haha, may have to go next year