you already KNOW im on a budget when im asking this question I can't decide on which one's better. Textile Jacket from SBS - comes with standard CE shoulder and elbow armour but NO back armour. https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/331659 Leather Jacket from ebay: claims to be 1.3mm thick from a reputable ebay seller; has removeable thermal liner, ce elbow, shoulder AND back armour (pretty much impossible at this price point) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Leather-Motorbike-Motorcycle-Jacket-Short-Biker-Brown-Distressed-CE-Armoured/183261682524?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3D55c9d5e23a2041a092cdc64745129f6f%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D152311681050%26itm%3D183261682524&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aa10e94eb-5861-11e9-bd54-74dbd1802f30%7Cparentrq%3Af278c4d51690a9c4a2a7c1b2fff6defe%7Ciid%3A1 ok bosses, before you say i should buy a quality full body race suit 3mm whole grain kangeroo leather with airbag technology, i wont