Those 2 statements I have quoted are contradictory. And with respect, you are missing the point. The training is not JUST to get you through the test, so if you skip the training... You will never replace what you learn on training with an experienced instructor... no matter how much experience you get by riding on the road, it is the instruction element that you will miss out on. And that makes you different to someone that has paid to do a 3 day DAS lesson... since they will have received that instruction [Controversy] For what it's worth, in my view both should be compulsory. A specified number of hours of skilled instruction mixed in with a specified number of hours on the road filling in a log book. As things stand at present, it is far too easy to get on the road (CBT) and too easy to get a full licence (DAS). And as for the current setup where after 2 years restriction (A2) you can jump on a 1000cc bike with NO experience on a bike bigger than 125cc, utter madness! [/Controversy]