right so on Wednesday I tried the new(to me) jacket I had a ride to Kirby Lonsdale which the round trip is just over 88 miles, the day was overall a bit on the cool side so I set off and the jacket was certainly warm enough(which is more than I could say for my knees I will wear my textile pants next time) with the quilted lining helping that's german quality for you, and its the best bike leather jacket I have owned in a long time and really pleased with it and hope to be having a lot more ride outs with it this summer plus before I wore it for the first time I coated it with renapur leather balsam and that stuff seems to work it makes the leather a lot more supple