Mental block against right-hand bends ... *SOLVED* :o)

[fredc]

this thread is just like the start of "twist of the wrist 2"

[Decor58]

If you want to get yourself further left on the right hand cornors imagine being decapitated by a lorry coming the other way because you're too far right

[oldgreg01]

this thread is just like the start of "twist of the wrist 2"

Well, it is the cornering bible.

[fredc]

Well, it is the cornering bible.

 

It wasn't that bit I meant

[oldgreg01]

Well, it is the cornering bible.

 

It wasn't that bit I meant

When they pull up at the bike stop? Everyone has a different solution?

[caretaker]

I found the same and think it is down to being right handed. I find I am in more control going left as my right hand is pushing the handlebars and is leading the left hand. On a right hand bends my weaker left hand is doing the leading. Now I know that I find it easier as I make my right hand do more work on right hand bends.

 

Got me confused now.....if your going left you should be pushing the left handlebar ( counter steering)

[mattneighbour]

If anyone is unsure about cornering and countersteering you really should do the i2i MC1 course. It has transformed my cornering and boosted my confidence 300%.

[caretaker]

I found the same and think it is down to being right handed. I find I am in more control going left as my right hand is pushing the handlebars and is leading the left hand. On a right hand bends my weaker left hand is doing the leading. Now I know that I find it easier as I make my right hand do more work on right hand bends.

If push with your right hand you will go right, not left

 

Sit on your bike with the front wheel straight forward, then push with your right hand and the wheel will turn to the left.

 

and the bike will lean right once you are over 15mph

[caretaker]

If anyone is unsure about cornering and countersteering you really should do the i2i MC1 course. It has transformed my cornering and boosted my confidence 300%.

 

Yes once i had countersteering explained to me it was a revelation to try it out an use it and so vital/ usefull to know in the event of an emergency when a swerve is needed.....

surely its taught in order to do the mod 1 swerve test?

[Mrbarry]

I wasnt taught countersteer for my mod1 but a friend told me about it so I did it and it works like a charm. Only issue I see is some fool pushing the bar 6 inches and exiting the seat rapidly, it realy is a sensetive thing. Perhaps thats why they dont teach it. On country lanes on my first lesson on a 600 I was using it after the first half hour and it feels so natural and makes the bike feel planted and easier to control. I didnt do any foot weighting just bar pushing. You can even pull the opposite bar at the same time if that works for you, it has the exact same effect over the bike and feels just as natural to me

Now if I can master the slow speed stuff ill be chuffed to bits lol.

[caretaker]

Practice , practice, practice, ride, ride, ride.

In all seriousness I always have had a preference for left hand bends. However the strips on any of my tyres always disappear on the right side much quicker, probably because I think more about right hand bends, even after 32 years of road riding.

 

This sounds like the effect of the roads camber to me

[Joeman]

Steering with your feet is a complete myth.

You can load the pegs as much as you like and it will hardly move the bike at all. Try it, stand up and lift one leg so all your weight is on one foot peg, the bike will gently drift off line, but wont make a radical direction change. The only way to make a bike change direction is to counter steer…

Look on youTube for the “Cornering Bible”

[Raj24v]

Exactly as oldgreg has just said. You can't body steer so it must be a result if you being loose on the bars.

[Stu]

Steering with your feet is a complete myth.

You can load the pegs as much as you like and it will hardly move the bike at all. Try it, stand up and lift one leg so all your weight is on one foot peg, the bike will gently drift off line, but wont make a radical direction change. The only way to make a bike change direction is to counter steer…

Look on youTube for the “Cornering Bible”

 

steering with your feet is a myth as you say

But loading the pegs does work but not to actually steer the bike you need to move the bars too just loading a peg will not make it steer but it lowers your center of gravity making the bike turn tighter and easier to turn

as you say the only way to make a bike turn is to counter steer I've heard some people say they don't do it before anything over around 15 - 20mph requires it you do it without even thinking about it

Theres a difference between doing it and knowing your doing it and actively doing it

By the way you do all know this is an old thread dont you? but its all still good for advice

[Joeman]

Steering with your feet is a complete myth.

You can load the pegs as much as you like and it will hardly move the bike at all. Try it, stand up and lift one leg so all your weight is on one foot peg, the bike will gently drift off line, but wont make a radical direction change. The only way to make a bike change direction is to counter steer…

Look on youTube for the “Cornering Bible”

 

steering with your feet is a myth as you say

But loading the pegs does work but not to actually steer the bike you need to move the bars too just loading a peg will not make it steer but it lowers your center of gravity making the bike turn tighter and easier to turn

as you say the only way to make a bike turn is to counter steer I've heard some people say they don't do it before anything over around 15 - 20mph requires it you do it without even thinking about it

 

 

Yep totally agree!! And its always fascinated me how we instinctively know when to turn towards the turn (at low speeds) or turn away from the turn (counter steering) at high speeds....

[Stu]

yeah it is a bit mad that your mind knows what to do before you even know what it is!!

must have something to do with riding a push bike as a kid as everyone has done that