TunnelEyes Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 For a short while the bike has had a couple issues starting, primarily after short journeys. Followed by medium length journeys too. Followed by I've-now-been-bumping-it-for-a-week. Before, after a couple of failed attempts at bumping it would then start on the switch, but now it's bump or nothing. Only noise made by the ignition is a click. Is this sounding battery or starter motor? Have a new battery regardless as I did leave it to sit Sept-March without starting it once so probably would benefit a new one anyway, but a few people have suggested starter motor issues? If so are these expensive to fix? :/ Quote
fastbob Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Very often all you need to do is open up the starter motor and give everything a good clean but this is not a job for a beginner. You can't just unbolt it without first removing the engine side cover to get at the cog or sprocket that drives the crank. Then you should fit a fresh gasket. There's bound to be a youtube video on it. Quote
TunnelEyes Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 Very often all you need to do is open up the starter motor and give everything a good clean but this is not a job for a beginner. You can't just unbolt it without first removing the engine side cover to get at the cog or sprocket that drives the crank. Then you should fit a fresh gasket. There's bound to be a youtube video on it. I've got it booked for a service 19th, do you think it would cost much? Quote
fastbob Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Sorry, I've no idea what mechanics charge per hour these days. The cost of parts depends on wether they use genuine Honda or not . There are millions of Chinese CG lookalikes out there so replica parts are cheap but it is up to your mechanic. I know that Wemoto do starter motor service kits for some bikes so worth a look.http://i.imgur.com/9mT6tV0.png Quote
Guest Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 You're getting ahead of yourself IMO and worrying for nothing, get a new battery first and 99 times out of a hundred there will be no problem with the starter motor. If you have bad luck and it is the starter motor, then cross that bridge when and IF you come to it. Quote
Mawsley Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 It's the battery. Yours is tiny and ran low on charge, too low, now it isn't storing charge as you ride.The click is the sound of the starter motor unable to turn over.Shove a multimeter across the battery terminals. Set it to 20V DC (that'll be the one without the wavy lines). Look at the reading as you depress the starter button - the reading will drop way below 12.4Volt...your battery is buggered.Go fit a new one, Motobatt tends to retain charge better imo. Enjoy riding without pushing the bike first. Quote
RantMachine Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 +1 on what Mawsley said. The battery in my CG is utterly friggin' useless, leave it for a few weeks (as I often do) and it's completely and utterly dead. I guess you can't expect too much when it's the size of a 20 pack?If mine didn't have a kick start I'd be replacing the damn thing every time I rode the bike. Quote
Westbeef Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Don't worry about anything else until you've stuck a new battery in, if it still don't work then look at other possible causes. Quote
RantMachine Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 And there ain't much that can go wrong with a CG so don't worry too much That's why I got one! Quote
TunnelEyes Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 Gonna have a crack at fitting the new battery today and hope for the best! Quote
Mawsley Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 If you can afford to buy a battery you can afford a multimeter - £9.29 in Screwfixhttp://www.screwfix.com/p/lap-mas830b-digital-multimeter-600v/75337?kpid=75337&cm_mmc=Google-_-Product%2520Listing%2520Ads-_-Sales%2520Tracking-_-sales%2520tracking%2520url&gclid=Cj0KEQjw-ezKBRCGwqyK0rHzmvkBEiQAu-_-LCLR2hydt-9LDmzNo3_UXpkMV2Bg4K7rrdnZjvbdiRYaApJt8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds&dclid=COz_tZGg79QCFVK6GwodLL8JAgElectricity isn't that tough - and when combined with YouTube, fault finding a starting problem using a multimeter is child's play.This nine quid will tell you if I'm correct about the battery, before you buy a battery. As my wife, my kids, and everybody who's ever met me will tell you, I'm frequently wrong. Quote
Furiae Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Mine did that too friend charges it and next day did it again. Started to worry so got it checked out and was just the battery. Try a new one and then get a mechanic. Quote
RantMachine Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!? You don't need a MECHANIC for a CG125 Quote
TunnelEyes Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!? You don't need a MECHANIC for a CG125 You do when you're totally clueless, pushed for time and have minimal support haha xD I have no back up form of transport, nobody in my family drives and both jobs are a fair commute and public transport would eat up most of what I earn without the bike Quote
RantMachine Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!? You don't need a MECHANIC for a CG125 You do when you're totally clueless, pushed for time and have minimal support haha xD I have no back up form of transport, nobody in my family drives and both jobs are a fair commute and public transport would eat up most of what I earn without the bike BEHOLD, THE HOLY GRAIL OF CG OWNERSHIPBut seriously though if you run into anything that isn't covered on there, let me know and I can probably help a bit. I've needlessly dismantled and rebuilt mine several times over now Quote
eastanglianbiker Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!? You don't need a MECHANIC for a CG125 if rant can fix one anyone can Quote
RantMachine Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!? You don't need a MECHANIC for a CG125 if rant can fix one anyone can EXACTLY the logic used when I bought it I read a review and it said something about the CG being designed for the 3rd world market and to handle all the abuse that comes with it, and I thought "YUP that'll do".Kwak gets taken to the stealership for work, the Honda gets the Motorbike Mengele treatment. Quote
TunnelEyes Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!? You don't need a MECHANIC for a CG125 You do when you're totally clueless, pushed for time and have minimal support haha xD I have no back up form of transport, nobody in my family drives and both jobs are a fair commute and public transport would eat up most of what I earn without the bike BEHOLD, THE HOLY GRAIL OF CG OWNERSHIPBut seriously though if you run into anything that isn't covered on there, let me know and I can probably help a bit. I've needlessly dismantled and rebuilt mine several times over now Thank you Quote
Westbeef Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 I want a CG to mess about with, but I don't want to pay more than £200 for one. Quote
Stu Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 I want a CG to mess about with, but I don't want to pay more than £200 for one. Just mess about with yours! Quote
Westbeef Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 I want a CG to mess about with, but I don't want to pay more than £200 for one. Just mess about with yours! I don't wanna do something that puts me off the road for a week or two Quote
Stu Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 I want a CG to mess about with, but I don't want to pay more than £200 for one. Just mess about with yours! I don't wanna do something that puts me off the road for a week or two Just don't use the torque wrench and you will be fine Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted July 4, 2017 Posted July 4, 2017 I am sure the advise replacing the battery is right. But once you have a new battery you want to keep it up on charge. For tiny batteries like the CG get a plug in 12v charger for a gell cell, about 400Ma. When you're not riding daily just put that on the battery and it will keep it topped up. Quote
TunnelEyes Posted July 4, 2017 Author Posted July 4, 2017 It's a starter motor problem. Knocking it with a hammer a couple times got it starting normally again. A new battery can't do any harm but still annoying! Quote
RantMachine Posted July 5, 2017 Posted July 5, 2017 Love it! That's a high tech CG fix right there Quote
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