Failing Test Due to other Road user

[Cbfrider]

I recently failed my Mod 2,I was asked to pull over when safe which i did.

We were at the bottom of a hill with a slight bend.

when asked to proceed i did all the correct checks indicated checked again and then set off,then an idiot who was speeding came hurtling down the hill behind me although he was not there when i set off and because he had to brake i failed which i dont think is fair.

i was told i pulled out in front of him which was wrong as the road was clear when i set off other than that i was told im a confident rider and there were no other issues i couldnt believe it 

Edited May 25, 2024 by Cbfrider
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[Bender]

Forget it nothing you can do, maybe examiner spotted him before you moved off, anywho you can't make better of it, put it down to bad luck and pass next time.

[S-Westerly]

21 minutes ago, Bender said:

Forget it nothing you can do, maybe examiner spotted him before you moved off, anywho you can't make better of it, put it down to bad luck and pass next time.

What he said. Same happened to my son in law on his first go. Was in a 20 mph zone outside a school. Pulled out in front of a Golf GTi which should have been doing 20 mph but wasn't and had to brake. He was a bit disgruntled but passed next time without issues.

[Cbfrider]

35 minutes ago, S-Westerly said:

What he said. Same happened to my son in law on his first go. Was in a 20 mph zone outside a school. Pulled out in front of a Golf GTi which should have been doing 20 mph but wasn't and had to brake. He was a bit disgruntled but passed next time without issues.

Thanks everyone for the Replies onwards and upwards just have to wait for my instructor to have a slot for me to book a retest it will be a busy time for him with lessons and cbt’s.

Very tempted to trade my 125 in and buy the GSX650 F I want and speak to Bikesure about learner insurance and get straight in for first available test.

There’s no problem getting the bike there on a trailer

[Cbfrider]

1 hour ago, Bender said:

Forget it nothing you can do, maybe examiner spotted him before you moved off, anywho you can't make better of it, put it down to bad luck and pass next time.

Definitely the next test is the winner,just hope the next time is the last

[Blackholesun]

Yes it sucks when you fail and it's not really your fault but any time the driver behind has to brake I think it's a fail 

[RideWithStyles]

yep its rough but if you didnt see them before you committed to set off in the possibility of the real world (which has far more possibilities to get you), the road has more than just you and pretty much every other road user will screw you over at any opportunity.

 

well just to think on a positive side: you didnt make contact but you must learn from it as next time you might have a bike/car hysterectomy....that is a life lesson youve just experienced as next time you might not get another chance.

 

 

Edited May 25, 2024 by RideWithStyles

[Cbfrider]

30 minutes ago, RideWithStyles said:

yep its rough but if you didnt see them before you committed to set off in the possibility of the real world (which has far more possibilities to get you), the road has more than just you and pretty much every other road user will screw you over at any opportunity.

 

well just to think on a positive side: you didnt make contact but you must learn from it as next time you might have a bike/car hysterectomy....that is a life lesson youve just experienced as next time you might not get another chance.

 

 

Yes,there was no sign of the car when I set off I made sure there was nothing before I set off and I was upto the correct road speed when he was flying down the hill the car wasn’t right up behind me he must have seen the examiner who to be fair looked like a motorcycle traffic officer and hit the brakes so there was no chance of him going in the back of me.

What has me concerned is if at a roundabout am I going to be failed for hesitation due to being over cautious when it’s a much less distance of approaching traffic

The roundabout on this test route is renowned for being a nightmare but I use it everyday either in the car or on the bike so I know what is a safe way to approach it.

I will pass the test and I can’t wait

[RideWithStyles]

great your learning, thats what makes a difference. good luck.

Edited May 27, 2024 by RideWithStyles

[Hairsy]

Please take this post in the spirit it's intended - to help.

 

Firstly, if that driver had not only been speeding but had also been playing with their phone then you could have been hit - and we all know that this isn't a particularly hypothetical scenario.

 

Secondly, and most importantly, there was a point in my riding life when I decided that every slightly dodgy incident that I encountered was something I should treat as something to avoid at all costs in the future. Regardless of who was technically in the wrong. Many of my 'incidents' were clearly my own fault - and still are - but many are other people's fault. I made a decision to ignore who is at fault and treat everything as MY responsibility to avoid in future. 

 

So applying it to your situation, ask yourself honestly whether you made the most comprehensive possible look behind you. Realistically, unless you examiner is a truly bad person, you probably COULD have spotted this driver.

 

By way of example, I was once told by an instructor that I 'could' take my right hand off the handlebars when looking behind me so that I could take a better look. I tried it and realised that I definitely could see better. So now I always do that. If I CAN do something to increase my safety then I now treat it as a failure if I choose not to.

 

Another suggestion, when you turn to look behind you, is to spend at least a second or two with your head completely still looking back. I see many people turn their head and immediately turn back again. Saccadic masking applies as much to us riders as it does to the drivers who fail to see us. A still head when looking behind you will see much more and, importantly, will be MUCH more effective at picking up movement.

 

I wish you all the luck with your next test and that you don't get anyone interfering with your smooth passage.

 

Enjoy that joy when you pass!

 

[Nick the wanderer]

When they tell you to pull over when safe try and leave plenty of straight road behind you so you have a more distance to get out into. I don't know the conditions and distances you had. Just a thought. Good luck next time.

[Cbfrider]

On 26/05/2024 at 10:02, Nick the wanderer said:

When they tell you to pull over when safe try and leave plenty of straight road behind you so you have a more distance to get out into. I don't know the conditions and distances you had. Just a thought. Good luck next time.

Certainly will do next time lesson definitely learnt

[Cbfrider]

On 26/05/2024 at 09:30, Hairsy said:

Please take this post in the spirit it's intended - to help.

 

Firstly, if that driver had not only been speeding but had also been playing with their phone then you could have been hit - and we all know that this isn't a particularly hypothetical scenario.

 

Secondly, and most importantly, there was a point in my riding life when I decided that every slightly dodgy incident that I encountered was something I should treat as something to avoid at all costs in the future. Regardless of who was technically in the wrong. Many of my 'incidents' were clearly my own fault - and still are - but many are other people's fault. I made a decision to ignore who is at fault and treat everything as MY responsibility to avoid in future. 

 

So applying it to your situation, ask yourself honestly whether you made the most comprehensive possible look behind you. Realistically, unless you examiner is a truly bad person, you probably COULD have spotted this driver.

 

By way of example, I was once told by an instructor that I 'could' take my right hand off the handlebars when looking behind me so that I could take a better look. I tried it and realised that I definitely could see better. So now I always do that. If I CAN do something to increase my safety then I now treat it as a failure if I choose not to.

 

Another suggestion, when you turn to look behind you, is to spend at least a second or two with your head completely still looking back. I see many people turn their head and immediately turn back again. Saccadic masking applies as much to us riders as it does to the drivers who fail to see us. A still head when looking behind you will see much more and, importantly, will be MUCH more effective at picking up movement.

 

I wish you all the luck with your next test and that you don't get anyone interfering with your smooth passage.

 

Enjoy that joy when you pass!

 

Your totally correct with what you say