Enduro crosser bike suggestions

[AstronautNinja]

Just the right level of drunk where a crosser seems an excellent addition to the BMer 

 

It's main function would be wheelies, jumps and greenlaning. It'd see as much off road as possibly, definitely not a fire track queen. 

 

A great man once said "if its got 2 wheels you should jump it" that's my kinda idiot 

[AstronautNinja]

Main requirement is relaliabity, I can't be arsed pushing a 160kg bike home if it's playing silly cvnts. Also something a little nutty 

[bonio]

This channel was made for you

Born A Goon - YouTube

 

[AstronautNinja]

Travis is a close fiend and an idol. Thanks for the constructive input 

[AstronautNinja]

1 hour ago, bonio said:

This channel was made for you

Born A Goon - YouTube

 

Strong post bro. 

Any bike suggestions 

[AstronautNinja]

Could be an option 

[bonio]

Can't give you any suggestions as I've never been seriously off road.

The wr450 is a well respected work horse. However I've read a fair bit of advice saying to start out with a 250 or under. Plenty of people ignore this mind and do fine.

[Tinkicker]

Honda CRF300 Rally.  Perfect for those with little off road experience and decent enough on road too.  Too much power per experience / talent unit is extremely tiring after a day on the trails.

 

Hell, even little yeller has more than enough power to get the inexperienced into trail riding "difficulty".

 

Little yeller.  Mad as a box of frogs.

 

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by Tinkicker

[manxie49]

KTM 250 XCF if you want a full blooded off roader or Honda CRF250, very capable bike for the green lanes with a few mods done.  Personally I wouldn't go much bigger than a 250, bigger bikes are heavier and harder to handle, plus it soon stops being funny after you've had to pick one up after several drops in the mud.  They're both four stroke as well.  Two stroke machines are just mental and definitely not for the faint hearted 

[AstronautNinja]

53 minutes ago, manxie49 said:

KTM 250 XCF if you want a full blooded off roader or Honda CRF250, very capable bike for the green lanes with a few mods done.  Personally I wouldn't go much bigger than a 250, bigger bikes are heavier and harder to handle, plus it soon stops being funny after you've had to pick one up after several drops in the mud.  They're both four stroke as well.  Two stroke machines are just mental and definitely not for the faint hearted 

Mental sounds good 

[Tinkicker]

21 hours ago, AstronautNinja said:

Mental sounds good 

 

 

I am going to be very cruel and very deliberate in this post.  I do not want to be, but I do it for your own good.  You leave me no choice.  I should step away and let you get on with it, but I will leave you with this observation.  I am done with this thread.

 

You clearly have no idea of "off road".  It is well documentented on here that I have competed for many the year in on and off road pursuits, both in an amateur and professional capacity.  I do have a wealth of knowledge in this "area".

 

Your idea of " mental sounds good" combined with your obvious zero comprehension of off road technique leads me to two prophesies in your future.

 

1.  A trip in a air ambulance.

 

2. A very intimate relationship with a wheelchair.

 

Your choice.

 

Rein in your ego.  It will hurt you.  Better riders than I now know about wheelchair cushion sores...   Riding motorcycles to the limit is a game of chance.  Good riders always stack the odds of success in their favour, not against and even that often is not enough..

Edited August 31, 2024 by Tinkicker

[Tinkicker]

Same guy in both pics..

 

Your dream.

 

 

The reality.   Eddie Kidd.  Formidable motocross racer and stunt rider..

 

Wayne Rainey.  3x World Champion Grand Prix rider.  What a hero.

 

 

Severed his spinal cord while sliding over loose gravel on his back.

 

 

World Championship Extreme Enduro event.. How many WR 450s do you see in this pic?  Answer, probably none.  You will be very unlikely to find one bigger than 300cc. 

 

 

 

Keep it real. I am not stumping up £20 towards a forum wreath.  Learn to walk before you try running......

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 31, 2024 by Tinkicker

[Nick the wanderer]

Wow, doom and gloom there.

 

Many, many, years ago, (yes it's one of those stories) when they were constructing the Lincoln bypass around the Birchwood, there were miles of cleared land and massive hills of dirt where the road was going. I swapped a Kawasaki KH250 for a KL250 single cylinder 4 stroke trail bike thing. It gave me hours of riding around the area up and down the moved earth piles. It was slow but dependable and still have happy memories of that bike today. Same bike as pic, not mine.

 

Some years later I fancied a bit more off road action and got a Kawasaki KX420 single cylinder 2 stroke. Went like stink, proper hit of a power band and crazy fast. Because it was not road registered I could only take it out in the pick up and to places that allowed you to ride. You could easily get out of control on that. I ended up using it less and less and passed it on. 

 

Today, if I was you, I'd go for the electric thing you were looking at, they look like fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AstronautNinja]

22 hours ago, Tinkicker said:

 

 

I am going to be very cruel and very deliberate in this post.  I do not want to be, but I do it for your own good.  You leave me no choice.  I should step away and let you get on with it, but I will leave you with this observation.  I am done with this thread.

 

You clearly have no idea of "off road".  It is well documentented on here that I have competed for many the year in on and off road pursuits, both in an amateur and professional capacity.  I do have a wealth of knowledge in this "area".

 

Your idea of " mental sounds good" combined with your obvious zero comprehension of off road technique leads me to two prophesies in your future.

 

1.  A trip in a air ambulance.

 

2. A very intimate relationship with a wheelchair.

 

Your choice.

 

Rein in your ego.  It will hurt you.  Better riders than I now know about wheelchair cushion sores...   Riding motorcycles to the limit is a game of chance.  Good riders always stack the odds of success in their favour, not against and even that often is not enough..

You indeed had a wide range of options, you chose your very specific approach rather than fully elaborate on the post in which I thanked you for your constructive input and actual bike suggestion.

 

Should of our conversation of gone the extra perverbial mile we may of acertaned that the initial 450 4S choice was due to the 45 minutes of road riding needed to get to any green lanes shown to me by the registered society as reccomended in the previous "off road experience" thread. We may of also got to the fact that I have also enquired about a weekends tuition again, as reccomended in the off road experience thread. 

 

Again should conversation of progressed the satire / banter of "mental sounds good" may well of come to light rather than the immediate presumption of a teenager wanting to do back flips. 

 

Now bugger me if the basic function of a forum isn't to converse with others who share an interest aswell as the more experienced sharing with the less experienced. Both of which I surely qualify right? The interest and less experienced that is. 

 

You chose to take a 3 word sentence and conclude I will certainly end up in a wheelchair with almost a desire to skip over any further investigation. Feel free to investigate no further, that is indeed your perogative but to post images of professional riders of various nature's and scream "is/this is you" just shows a complete lack of desire to actually discuss the question at hand. 

 

Should you ever find yourself in an area in which I have knowledge to share rest assured I'll leave my dummy in and be of more assistance whilst keeping my sense of humour to hand. 

[Tinkicker]

3 hours ago, AstronautNinja said:

You indeed had a wide range of options, you chose your very specific approach rather than fully elaborate on the post in which I thanked you for your constructive input and actual bike suggestion.

 

Should of our conversation of gone the extra perverbial mile we may of acertaned that the initial 450 4S choice was due to the 45 minutes of road riding needed to get to any green lanes shown to me by the registered society as reccomended in the previous "off road experience" thread. We may of also got to the fact that I have also enquired about a weekends tuition again, as reccomended in the off road experience thread. 

 

Again should conversation of progressed the satire / banter of "mental sounds good" may well of come to light rather than the immediate presumption of a teenager wanting to do back flips. 

 

Now bugger me if the basic function of a forum isn't to converse with others who share an interest aswell as the more experienced sharing with the less experienced. Both of which I surely qualify right? The interest and less experienced that is. 

 

You chose to take a 3 word sentence and conclude I will certainly end up in a wheelchair with almost a desire to skip over any further investigation. Feel free to investigate no further, that is indeed your perogative but to post images of professional riders of various nature's and scream "is/this is you" just shows a complete lack of desire to actually discuss the question at hand. 

 

Should you ever find yourself in an area in which I have knowledge to share rest assured I'll leave my dummy in and be of more assistance whilst keeping my sense of humour to hand. 

 

You have caught me at somewhat of a disadvantage.  I have embibed a beer or ten.  So my judgement may not be what it could have been when responding.

 

However.

 

 

I refer you to my previous post re CRF300.  " also good on the road", or words to that effect.  Do not try to play the victim.  You like to portray yourself as the "dashing rebel".  A bit edgy.

 

  I have seen it all, and a good part of my previous life was fighting ambulance chasing lawyers against " experienced motorcyclists" who thought they knew how to ride motorcycles off road, thought it would be a jolly jape, and failed miserably; and suddenly, despite being offered tuition which they declined,  and signing legally binding disclaimers, decided it was all our fault for finding themselves with broken legs/ arms/ ankles.

 

So sorry.  I do not find you to be very much of a contest, nor someone to take anything you say seriously " mental, that sounds good".  You are playing at riding motorcycles.  And motorcycles do not like that.  They WILL bite you on the ass, completely and irrevocably.

 

I think you need to find another pastime.  Try speed knitting, or painting landscapes.  Something your ego will not get you killed or maimed doing.

 

Classic.  A fool and his money are easily parted.  And the weak will always try to favour the powerful... I wonder how many WR 450s are languishing in garages up.and down the country because their owners had more money than sense or knowledge...

 

Its bigger and more expensive.. Must be sicker.  Stands to reason dunnit?  Ooh shit, I hate it.  It has a mind of its own....  I will put it in the corner, throw a blanket over it, and avoid any conversation with the missus about it.

 

It never existed....

 

I offer good advice and am trying mightily to save your C2 vertibrae, ensure you have some fun, and try to.avoid wasting the contents of your wallet.   In the end it is your life and your decision. 

I accept from what I have learned from your posts, you will not listen to a single word of advice that anyone has offered here, despite you asking for it.   

 

Do what the feck you want.  I will not be chipping in £20 for a wreath though.  Done.

 

 

Edited September 1, 2024 by Tinkicker

[Bender]

Seeing as the thread starts with wheelies jumps and greenlaning having advice on how not to end up in a wheelchair or worse seems reasonable advice to me.

 

Plenty of options to choose from and this is just going to start going round in circles.