Private plate

[dani]

Hi little help if you can..

My partner has building his own motor bike, the engine used is a triumph Bonneville not that I think that matters but either way I wanted to get him a private plate for Xmas but suddenly thought it won't have a v5 ifs it not a manufactured bike.. can I do this still

[Simon Davey]

@dani

Yes indeed. You buy the registration. 

You can then use it on any vehicle that you wish, but it mustn't make that vehicle look newer than it actually is. 

A private plate is registered to the person. 

I think you then have to inform the DVSA which vehicle you use it for(?)

Edited November 29, 2024 by Simon Davey

[Stu]

I disagree with @Simon Davey unfortunately! In 99.99999999% of cases he is right but if he is building a bike then it may end up having to be re registered and could end up on a Q plate and I don't know what the crack is with private plates is for that situation 

 

I would tread carefully before going ahead and buying a plate 

[Capt Sisko]

4 hours ago, Stu said:

--and could end up on a Q plate and I don't know what the crack is with private plates is for that situation

IF it does get a Q you can't put a private plate on.

https://www.theprivateplateco.co.uk/support/frequently-asked-questions/my-vehicle-has-a-q-plate-can-i-change-it/

Edited November 29, 2024 by Capt Sisko

[RideWithStyles]

If its a new custom bike as in a custom frame made in a man’s shed in the uk it’s viewed as a “Q”, these are tested viewed and tested differently.

if it had a frame from an existing part with a vin (much time what happens with most trikes, then it would have the frames vin but have different information as to what has changed.

[Fiddlesticks]

Doesn't it depend on what "build" means?  If you start from scratch, it will be different to if you have a frame with a vin that you can send off to get the V5 for.

[Simon Davey]

So once it has a "Q" plate, can a private plate not be applied afterwards? 

Edited November 29, 2024 by Simon Davey

[RideWithStyles]

No you cannot put a private plate on a Q cat vehicle.

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

Interesting.  A mate loves building small capacity bikes from weird originals. His current one is based on an imported Japanese postal bike. I'm pretty sure he has kept the original reg from when it was imported. 

 

I guess there's a fuzzy line as to what constitutes a whole new bike as opposed to a modified original.  

[RideWithStyles]

That’s the thing, if it has a proper manufacturer vin, home market or not as the import it has accountability and trace- if it actually tested by a manufacturer.

some dude in a shed with some tube, wield and bar bending aint right or the same thing eye balling it is not correct in the eyes of gov and dvla.

 

its simple if the frame has a proper vin and all the paper work follows up correct its correct, if you slam that frame to make account for say a trike it’s papers will say its vin is the same …..from a Suzuki hyabusa but now it has modified to three wheels so it’s change class to a trike but still has the main frame it’s still that bike frame so the plate of that frame goes with the bike but the papers will say changes and it test requires a different approach.

if you have a no vin you have to reg it as such, that you can stamp a number on but it will be what they say it will have but always be a Q.

 

Edited November 29, 2024 by RideWithStyles

[husoi]

You should have the vin number on the donor frame. That's the one you would use for DVLA reference.

Not sure if it needs inspected by dvsa as it is a modified vehicle 

[bud]

The DVLA is a mine field you have to wade through it your really build a special.

Someone I know built a Suzuki GSX1100 special. Imported Suzuki frame. But everything else was from different Suzuki bikes. Tank, swing arm, engine, forks, and wheels. The DVLA wouldn't let him call it a Suzuki. Even after passing the SVA test.

Edited November 29, 2024 by bud

[Davidtav]

I’ve wondered how Allen Millyard gets around this?  For example that huge viper engined bike must be a new build I would have thought?  But has a private plate. Not a Q plate

[Capt Sisko]

3 hours ago, Davidtav said:

I’ve wondered how Allen Millyard gets around this?  For example that huge viper engined bike must be a new build I would have thought?  But has a private plate. Not a Q plate

According to the DVLA website the vehicle make is a 'Millyard Viper V10'. I'd hazard a guess and say that the rules for a registered business are different to those for a private individual. 

EDIT: As a matter of interest the MOT ran out in April '24 and it's currently on a SORN but it's got a brilliant reg plate - V10 OTT.

Edited November 29, 2024 by Capt Sisko