Interference Fit

Never thought about it, just automatically stay sat on the bike and pay at the pump.

Just had a ride out in 7 deg C and the Jet Road V2s are better than the GP Force, but maybe not as much as I hoped they would be. Backs of the hands were pleasant down to the the first knuckle, but the ends of my fingers got very cold which was a slight disappointment, but not cold enough to impede movement or physically hurt, so definitely an improvement. I guess this serves me right for being built like a racing snake and having hands like Montgomery Burns. Given this is as cold as I'll ever ride and for no more than 45 mins, these will be fine. I'm sure above 10deg C they'll be ideal for longer rides, then I can use the GP Force in the summer when I'm trying to manage keeping the temps down.

The Alpinestars Jet Road V2s turned up earlier.... they fit like a... (I can't do it). Really comfy, same fit as my others and feel much more insulated. I like them so much I've cancelled the others as these will do. If the roads are dry tomorrow, I'll report back whether it was a waste of money or not.

Either way, only by holding the button down for 10 seconds on the gloves did the red setting illuminate. The same instructions came with the gloves of how to access the highest setting.

Maybe a different model? I had them hooked up to my freshly charged car jump start pack so power was not the issue. Who knows. Either way, the crucial factor is they didn't fit my hand proportions - the floppy thumb end and tight finger tip ends were just not suitable for me. I went through endless brands of gloves with similar issues until I found the Alpinestars which where the leasts 'least too short' of them all. If I put my measurements into a glove size table, for circumference I'm large, for length I'm XXL or more. Good swimmer though.

Absolutely, just not enough!

I saw a green V100 go past in the opposite direction last time I was out riding - I only caught a quick glimpse as it went past but it looked great.

Yep, yet they were suggested in multiple places as a good solution. Wind manybe, but not heat that's for sure.

I just don't want to be retro-fitting heated grips to this bike, I want to leave it absolutely bone stock.

I bought some Klim silk inner liners which do a great job of cutting wind. They do *precisely bugger all to stop my hands freezing. *Scientifically they must do something as an additional layer of insulation, but not perceptible in 5 degree temps on the motorway when your almost numb and slow motion hands are screaming at you to get home, immediately without passing go. I did like the heated grips on my CBR (proper heat, not this barely lukewarm nonsense), but they didn't really cover the finger tips or help the backs of the hands that are exposed to the chilling wind blast. Fingers crossed (see what I did there?) the Alpinestars 'winter' gloves with supa-dupa insulation material at least keep the worst at bay. We'll see. Worst case scenario I move to Arizona and only ride in July and August.

Yes, you have to switch them on, get them to the green setting, then hold down the button for 10 seconds to access amber and red. Like I say, nice quality gloves, but not hot enough to bother with the faff. I've ordered these and will report which I prefer. https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/407566. (100g Primaloft) https://eu.alpinestars.com/collections/moto-gloves/products/wr-x-gore-tex-gloves?variant=47418688373071. (133g Primaloft Gold) They had the highest amount of insulation I could find.

I took a punt on the Gerbings which arrived today, but I'll be sending them back for two reasons. Firstly, they just don't fit my hand shape - finger tips pressing tightly against the ends whilst there was a half inch of excess thumb flopping about, so that was a non-starter. Secondly, the heat was well below my expectations. I made sure I unlocked the hottest setting and attached to a 12V power supply and even after 20 mins on max, they were 'warm' at best. I inserted my pyrometer and the hottest reading I could get anywhere within the glove was 30 degrees C. Maybe that'd be enough to stop my fingers hurting from cold, but no way would that bring the 'warm and toasty' as per some of the reviews. As for the hottest setting needing to be unlocked to prevent scalding? Not a chance. Lovely gloves but the heated bit was very underwhelming. On reflection, I canl't be faffed with cables and connections, so will just buy the warmest Aplinestars (they fit my hand shape) I can find - not that their website indicates which are the the warmest.

Just been out for a ride now. I must have looked like I was REALLY fond of the bike at lights, when in actual fact I was just reaching down each side of the tank to warm my hands on the motor.

The Five gloves look good. Do you have to set the level on each glove independently?

I have long, slim hands. I tried all sorts of gloves before settling on the GPs, they had the longest fingers of them all. I'm 22.5cm round the palm, but also the same measurement from first wrist crease to the tip of my middle finger.

Your feedback matches what I've read online for both those brands - unreliable or not hot enough.

Thanks - any recommendations? Current bookmarks are: https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/407566#reviews https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/69186 But do they actually work? I don't want something that just takes an extra 30 mins before my fingers freeze. I'm not worried about water proof, I have no intention of riding in the rain, nor chancing getting caught out.

I really don't want to fit heated grips to my bike, as wonderful as they are, and would prefer just to get some warmer gloves. Even with silk inner gloves, my Alpinestars GP Plus gloves are too cold below about 14 degrees C. Below 10 deg C and my rides are curtailed at about 20-30 mins as my fingers just go numb or painful - not fun. Today in 5 deg C I was done after 15 mins. Are warmer, non-heated 'winter' gloves worth bothering with? Do they actually keep your hands materially warmer than regular gloves, or are they just delaying the inevitable? Or are heated gloves the only way to go? I must admit, the thought of faffing with batteries of having to plug myself into the bike with cables etc does seem like quite a faff, but if they're the best thing since sliced bread(?) which ones do people recommend? I'd be wanting high safety rating, long cuff. I'd be interested to hear people's views and experiences.

I do question myself about this and just came to the conclusion that I'm probably not a 'natural' and therefore have (had) to think about it and practice to get more comfortable at higher speeds.

This is true. When I was taking lessons for my Mod 2, we went down some twisties and the lead rider was going faster than I was comfortable and I ended up falling behind. I just couldn't get the bike to go round the corners fast enough without pushing wide, at one point I almost contacted a hedge on the exit. At the relatively slow speeds and lean angles whilst on lessons, I wasn't conscious of counter steering, it felt just like riding a bike in that I didn't think about what I was doing, I just 'steered'. Only when I learned what counter steering is and made a conscious decision to do it, did it all fall into place. Now with some experience under my belt, I just push the inside bar away until I achieve the desired lean angle for the speed / bend combo and that's that. Of course I'm still making adjustments mid bend or roundabout to correct the ideal amount of lean for the bend, but that'll come with more practice. The good thing is now that I don't have to think about it like I did in the early days on my CBR. I lost count of the amount of times I'd say to myself in my head approaching a bend "Push, look, lean".

I actively counter steer at anything over about 15 mph and look where I want to go and the bike does the rest, but countersteering is my default subconscious muscle memory action.

Yep, it's tough when you just want to ride but the roads are terrible. I know it's a choice what weather we ride in, but I see no fun in getting cold and wet and the bike filthy. Roll on Spring and Summer.

Took advantage of the drying roads to build more experience on my second ride.

Last one only, but only because I saw I figured it out when used in obvious context of an accident.