Joeman Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Good news - the planned 3p fuel duty rise has been cancelled!! I was expecting it to be postponed, but never expected it to be cancelled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 give it a few weeks or months, it'll happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Meat Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 What the bast*rds giveth the bast*rds will definatly taketh away.They always do this they offer us a manky pork chop and then when your not looking they hack off both your legs...!!!It's a smoke screen for worse crap to follow. Another 8 years in recession they reckon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbag Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Thieving Bastards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManInASuitcase Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Good news - the planned 3p fuel duty rise has been cancelled!! I was expecting it to be postponed, but never expected it to be cancelled... I wouldn't get to excited.Going on the previous budget this could be reversed within 24 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberwolf Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 3p fuel duty rise has been cancelled in its place is a 5p fuel duty rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin the Bear Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 3p on fuel is what? £1.50 on a tank of diesel for the car. 50p on a tank of petrol for the bike. The country is sliding off the edge of financial cliff, services and jobs are being cut, benefits are being frozen, the long term sick are being persecuted off benefits and the unemployed are being harrassed to get jobs that don't exist. But hey... it won't cost me an extra £1.50 to go 400 miles. Have you seen the price of engine oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 3p on fuel is what? £1.50 on a tank of diesel for the car. 50p on a tank of petrol for the bike. The country is sliding off the edge of financial cliff, services and jobs are being cut, benefits are being frozen, the long term sick are being persecuted off benefits and the unemployed are being harrassed to get jobs that don't exist. But hey... it won't cost me an extra £1.50 to go 400 miles. Have you seen the price of engine oil? Thats 3p duty, by the time it gets to the forecourt and had VAT and profit and various other multipliers it equates to a lot more than 3p..And its about time benefits got capped! Working people dont get a payrise and a bigger house for free when they have kids, so they hold off having kids till they can afford them... meanwhile the benefits scroungers plan their kids to get more money and a bigger house.. Also the scroungers get to stay at home and watch their kids grow up, whilst the workers have to go to work and miss much of their kids childhood.. country will pay the price soon when majority of kids come from a non-working home and have no idea what "a job" is - its already happening...And why should they get whole house to themselves?? most working people trying to make a way in the world, at some point find themselves getting a house/flat share often with complete strangers, yet the benefits scroungers are all moaning that they are being evicted from their 3 bed houses when their kids leave home.. the idea of taking in a lodger never even crosses their idiotic little minds because they believe the country owes them a huge, multi bedroom house... Meanwhile working people who might be struggling to pay mortgages have no option but to take in logers..And there are jobs about, the fact there are still people coming in from other countries to work here proves there are jobs. The difference is they are hard working people who are prepared to share a house, cook their own food (rather than living off expensive, unhealthy ready meals and takeaways) and do the "menial" jobs that the lazy brits feel are beneath them... when was the last time you saw a brit working at a hand car wash??? I have no sympathy for the long term benefits scroungers who are fit and well enough to work... They have no excuses not to get a job, and the excuse that there are "no jobs in their area", just shows they need to move!! Thats what most working people find themselves doing, they up-sticks and move to where the jobs are, leaving family and friends behind, but thats the sacrifice they pay for the dignity of a job, instead of taking freebie handouts from the state....I hate the benefits scrounging scumbags with a passion... you might have guess that though.... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberwolf Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 maybe check on things b4 blowing your top, housing as change for ppl on benefits the is a cap on what is paid for rent, gone are the days where someone on benefits can live in a posh house, the loads of other things but i cant be ass putting it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 maybe check on things b4 blowing your top, housing as change for ppl on benefits the is a cap on what is paid for rent, gone are the days where someone on benefits can live in a posh house, the loads of other things but i cant be ass putting it in LOL, if you cant be assed, your clearly dont have valid point to make, so dont patronise me by saying i should check my facts, then run away... come on smart ass, tell us how it really is! its a forum, so lets here you expert opinion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberwolf Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 maybe check on things b4 blowing your top, housing as change for ppl on benefits the is a cap on what is paid for rent, gone are the days where someone on benefits can live in a posh house, the loads of other things but i cant be ass putting it in LOL, if you cant be assed, your clearly dont have valid point to make, so dont patronise me by saying i should check my facts, then run away... come on smart ass, tell us how it really is! its a forum, so lets here you expert opinion... thats why i cant be ass cos ppl like you talk shit instead of checking your facts, which wouldn't of been to hard as its been all over the fecking news Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 RIGHT!!! READ THE RULES!!!!!!anymore "smart ass""talk shit" etc. etc. I'll lock the thread and ban everyone concerned! If you can't be civil to each other don't bother posting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberwolf Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 ban me i no longer give a shit, im out of here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointblank0 Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 It's good to argue now and then to let off some steam.... Everyone's got different opinions, I'm sure nothing hurtful was meant.Myself, I don't trust these Government fu**ers. I personally think it is a fictional recession to allow services to be cut and greater savings to be made, tax increases etc to cover 'a crisis'. It all comes down to greed. Name one Government in the world that hasn't been corrupt.Just my views mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 It's good to argue now and then to let off some steam.... Everyone's got different opinions, I'm sure nothing hurtful was meant. yep, and with polar oposite opinions, it could have been an interesting debate, but i dont mind being called names by people who cant support their own argument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zod Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 It's good to argue now and then to let off some steam.... Everyone's got different opinions, I'm sure nothing hurtful was meant.Myself, I don't trust these Government fu**ers. I personally think it is a fictional recession to allow services to be cut and greater savings to be made, tax increases etc to cover 'a crisis'. It all comes down to greed. Name one Government in the world that hasn't been corrupt.Just my views mind. I don't think anyone can as mostly or the majority of world governments or parties are all corrupt douchebags. And the majority of those don't use the tax gained from the tax payer for any good cause but instead use it for their own cause, as seen already with the British government. Personally I'd say the government isn't needed but then I'll be wrong so instead I'll say the current as*holes who run the country ARE NOT needed and should be kicked from office and forced onto the dol to see how THEY like it, to see how THEY feel. In my personal opinion the government can only f**k up a nation than to do good by its people, all the lies, the constant bullshit they spread, making decsisions which the people must have a say on, keeping us in the dark over the majority of things. The world could probably be better off without them.And further more...They are the first to make up the laws, they are the first to break them. They are the first to bring illegal drugs into the country and then they want them out because they "Now" see the harm it is doing to everyone. My rant is finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhJay Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Douglas Adams said it best:The major problem — one of the major problems, for there are several — one of the many major problems with governing people is that of whom you get to do it; or rather of who manages to get people to let them do it to them.To summarize: it is a well known fact that those people who most want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it.To summarize the summary: anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job.To summarize the summary of the summary: people are a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointblank0 Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Iv'e often thought that the world would be a great place if there weren't any people on it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzie Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 Some people didnt get their morning coffee Let the anti-conservatives say all they want. It was labour who put us in this mess to begin with...Europe is a massive anchor on our economy as its rules are constrictive and its demands unfair.We need to be free of europe, we never took on the currency so its painless for us to go. We can trade with China more and get round the embargo europe set so we source from them.Glad the 3p rise didnt happen. Glad benefits is being capped.But whoever thought that we would bounce out of a recession needs meds. Look at Japan, it got totally screwed and its taken years and years to work their ways through it with the scars of their economic crash still visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 Let the anti-conservatives say all they want. It was labour who put us in this mess to begin with...Europe is a massive anchor on our economy as its rules are constrictive and its demands unfair. Yep, always the same pattern. Labour come into power, get the country into a real mess, then they get voted out and leave it to the Conservatives to make the hard hitting decisions to fix the country.. everyone hates the decisions the conservatives have to implement, and then Labour get voted back in... Labour relax all the rules and the cycle starts all over again...As for benefits capping... minimum wage is £6.19 right? Why not cap benefits at a level below the equivalent of a 40hour working week on minimum wage?? This might give the incentive for people to get off benefits and into a paying job.Some basic maths: 40hours * £6.19 = £247.60 per week.Compare this to the £500 per week that the government are planning to cap benefits at,£500 / 40hours = £12.50 per hour!So why would anyone who's getting benefits want to get a job, be away from home for 40+ hours per week, and still earn half what they would get on benefits?? I say cap at £200per week (equivalent of £5/hour over 40 hours) if you cant live on that, either change your lifestyle accordingly, or get a f*ckin job!!!!!(Flame suit on) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbag Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I got distracted then , oh yeah that was it, 3p fuel rise, well I'm very fortunate to run an LPG car its old & now done er 179,000 miles but its functional for when the bikes wintered, I seriously recommend anyone changing cars to give them a look, currently its about 75p a litre so a full tank costs about 35quid & will do about 300 miles on that. The LPG prices track heating costs aswell so in the summer it always goes down, a fact my mate witha LPG converted Z4 loves.Oh and its congestion charge exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 I got distracted then , oh yeah that was it, 3p fuel rise, well I'm very fortunate to run an LPG car its old & now done er 179,000 miles but its functional for when the bikes wintered, I seriously recommend anyone changing cars to give them a look, currently its about 75p a litre so a full tank costs about 35quid & will do about 300 miles on that. The LPG prices track heating costs aswell so in the summer it always goes down, a fact my mate witha LPG converted Z4 loves.Oh and its congestion charge exempt. I very nearly bought a RangeRover Sport Supercharged with the view to convert to LPG. Prices of the RRS-Supercharged have dropped like a stone because nobody can afford the 8mpg running costs. So with an LPG conversion, its a great way to get a once very expensive car for not a lot of money.Trouble is, i'm lazy, and there are no LPG stations close by Sevenoaks, so i know i would end up just going to the local filling stations and spending a fortune on unleaded!Map of LPG filling stations http://www.getlpg.org.uk/stations/kent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbag Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 I avoid the non specialist retailers, FloGas are pretty competitive & there's one not too far from you http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa3/tankbag/flogas.png Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joeman Posted December 7, 2012 Author Share Posted December 7, 2012 I avoid the non specialist retailers, FloGas are pretty competitive & there's one not too far from you http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa3/tankbag/flogas.png 9.9 miles away.. at ~8mpg, i'd use a gallon of Unleaded to reach my nearest LPG filling station !LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tankbag Posted December 7, 2012 Share Posted December 7, 2012 9.9 miles away.. at ~8mpg, i'd use a gallon of Unleaded to reach my nearest LPG filling station !LOL Are there any hills you could coast down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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