BoB3rt Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Hi,Picked my R6 up today from the local motorbike workshop, where i had the fork oil and seals replaced as the old ones where leaking. After getting it home (in a van) i noticed the damn things are so stiff, when i sit down there is Zero sag in the forks, and takes a lot of effort to push them down a little! I did ask are they back to standard settings to which he replied yes, but these feel solid. I have not had a chance to fiddle with them yet as i had to go out but this doesn't feel right!? Anyone had this after new oil and seals?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Sounds like he,s put em back together wrong to me. Get him to pick the bike up and sort it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 They may have too much oil in them. Had this on the CG125 after we replaced the fork seals.....filled the fork legs with the correct amount of oil and they were solid.....drained some of the oil off and they were fine......may take a bit of experimenting.....or just get the shop to do it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoB3rt Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 I think the fork settings have just been messed with so much! The preload was at 0 The rebound was right up! and i haven't looked at the 2 compression settings yet... I trust the garage really, they used silkoene 10w fork oil. I am going to tale it to get set up anyway, am sure they will tell me if there is any problems.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoB3rt Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 I should mention this is a new bike for me so not even ridden it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Well....it should get sorted then mate..... But on the subject of the fork oil......I've replaced the seals on the CG125 and previously on a Trophy 900.....and on both I filled them to the correct level according to the service manual....and on both I had to remove some oil because they were overfilled and the CG was absolutely solid.....so it depends where the garage got the info on the oil quantity from....but it may be wrong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedevil Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Why didnt they test it after doing the work? I'd be on the phone to them to get it sorted. And i wouldnt be going back there again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 think I'd give a few miles on the road before I'd start groaning, could be it'll take a few miles of road work for the seals to bed in,, you say the old one's were leaking, so expect the new ones to be tight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 With respect Roadtorque, that's bollox. The forks should work normally with brand new seals. That bike is dangerous to ride on the road, the "mechanic" should have tested it and they should fix it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 With respect Roadtorque, that's bollox. The forks should work normally with brand new seals. That bike is dangerous to ride on the road, the "mechanic" should have tested it and they should fix it!!! you've got your opinion & I've got mine,, new seals will be a tighter fit, as I say give it a test ride before shouting the odds,,the guy collected it a van which would indicate his comments were made by trying to test while the bike is static & comparing the feel of the new seals against the old,,, as he says the old seals were leaking & who knows the amount of oil lost, creating excessive movement & lack of restriction,,,, of course new seals will make the bike feel different, but test ride it before you condemn the work done that being said,,, I'm well known for talking bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megawatt Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I understand what you are saying mate, but no way would new seals cause the forks to have NO SAG and need a lot of effort to compress. There must be something else wrong with them, like too much oil or damping valves not fitted properly . A decent mechanic would have spotted this straight away. You should not advise people to test ride a bike with no suspension movement on the road. The bike is dangerous to ride and should be back at the bikeshop being repaired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycoops43 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 With respect Roadtorque, that's bollox. The forks should work normally with brand new seals. That bike is dangerous to ride on the road, the "mechanic" should have tested it and they should fix it!!! you've got your opinion & I've got mine,, new seals will be a tighter fit, as I say give it a test ride before shouting the odds,,the guy collected it a van which would indicate his comments were made by trying to test while the bike is static & comparing the feel of the new seals against the old,,, as he says the old seals were leaking & who knows the amount of oil lost, creating excessive movement & lack of restriction,,,, of course new seals will make the bike feel different, but test ride it before you condemn the work done that being said,,, I'm well known for talking bollocks Sorry, having old or leaking seals, the bike will not feel any different to new seals, the different feeling comes from having a lack of oil due to it leaking out past the old oil seals. I don't know what you think seals do, but they don't have a friction effect on the fork leg, that's not what they are there for, that's what dampers do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 With respect Roadtorque, that's bollox. The forks should work normally with brand new seals. That bike is dangerous to ride on the road, the "mechanic" should have tested it and they should fix it!!! you've got your opinion & I've got mine,, new seals will be a tighter fit, as I say give it a test ride before shouting the odds,,the guy collected it a van which would indicate his comments were made by trying to test while the bike is static & comparing the feel of the new seals against the old,,, as he says the old seals were leaking & who knows the amount of oil lost, creating excessive movement & lack of restriction,,,, of course new seals will make the bike feel different, but test ride it before you condemn the work done that being said,,, I'm well known for talking bollocks Sorry, having old or leaking seals, the bike will not feel any different to new seals, the different feeling comes from having a lack of oil due to it leaking out past the old oil seals. I don't know what you think seals do, but they don't have a friction effect on the fork leg, that's not what they are there for, that's what dampers do. I think thats what I saidso tell me why the old ones started leakingWell blow me,,, here's me,, been a biker for over 50 years & in all that time I never found out what dampers do well you live & learn I stripped & refurbished my first set forks when I was 17 back in 1957,,,, & in the RAF I worked on aircraft landing gear,,,, so tell me again about dampers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattycoops43 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Your the one that said new seals will be a tighter fit and feel different, not me. They won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 your all actually right the forks will be stiffer due to the right amount of oil been in how stiff is a different matter and whether the ops forks are too stiff is anyones guess over the internet the fork seals will be gripping harder on the stanchions otherwise the oil would still be leaking out yes this will cause more friction and be stiffer on the forks then the leaking ones but whether you would notice is a different story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rennie Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 The "F" in TMBF used to stand for friendly!Oh the good old days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadtorque Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Cheers Stu The good old days Mr R How times have changed and they call it progress I always was a grumpy old sod, & each year I get better at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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