I hope both drivers are prosecuted

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The Highway Code Rule 267 states only overtake on the right. Rule 268 states do not overtake on the left unless it is congested and that lane moves faster than lanes to the right. Rule 269 you MUST NOT use the hard shoulder for overtaking.

[Stu]

they both want stringing up!!

pair of fuckwitts!!

why the hell is he driving in the middle lane slower than 56mph?

plastic ex copper thinking he is the law! he needs teaching a lesson or two!!

[TC1474]

The Highway Code Rule 267 states only overtake on the right. Rule 268 states do not overtake on the left unless it is congested and that lane moves faster than lanes to the right. Rule 269 you MUST NOT use the hard shoulder for overtaking.

 

That part of the Highway Code is not law, it is advice, the exception being about the hard shoulder, and even then, that is now wrong to a degree as some Motorways now use the shoulder as a live lane

[TC1474]

Also very interesting information on undertaking

So to be clear this isn't an offence any more?

Since 1972

 

Correct

[Gin]

The Highway Code Rule 267 states only overtake on the right. Rule 268 states do not overtake on the left unless it is congested and that lane moves faster than lanes to the right. Rule 269 you MUST NOT use the hard shoulder for overtaking.

 

That part of the Highway Code is not law, it is advice, the exception being about the hard shoulder, and even then, that is now wrong to a degree as some Motorways now use the shoulder as a live lane

Yeah..

This is where my comment about trying to find the line between law and highway code.

I can understand that it must be a real bitch to police, specially when you get gits going "Well, Technically officer.."

I undertake if they're doing less than speed limit when I'm in the car.. Less likely on the bike as I'm just that much more venerable..

[TC1474]

This is where my comment about trying to find the line between law and highway code.

I can understand that it must be a real bitch to police, specially when you get gits going "Well, Technically officer.."

 

 

No, there is no fine line, the biggest problem are members of the public who consider themselves experts on traffic law (bar room lawyers) and don't have a clue, and coppers who also don't have a clue

If the Highway Code says "Must Not" and is then backed up by the appropriate piece of legislation, then it is a legal requirement.

If it says "Should Not" then it is advice only

But most drivers and riders have not loked at the HC since they assed their test.

[Hoggs]

But most drivers and riders have not looked at the HC since they passed their test.

 

This is true Maybe we can have TC's HC Weekly where you set a question and we have to go look up the answer

I laugh, but if you did I would have to go and find out the answer because I'm like that....

[Six30]

The Highway Code Rule 267 states only overtake on the right. Rule 268 states do not overtake on the left unless it is congested and that lane moves faster than lanes to the right. Rule 269 you MUST NOT use the hard shoulder for overtaking.

 

That part of the Highway Code is not law, it is advice, the exception being about the hard shoulder, and even then, that is now wrong to a degree as some Motorways now use the shoulder as a live lane

Yeah..

This is where my comment about trying to find the line between law and highway code.

I can understand that it must be a real bitch to police, specially when you get gits going "Well, Technically officer.."

I undertake if they're doing less than speed limit when I'm in the car.. Less likely on the bike as I'm just that much more venerable..

 

I undertake bib and give em the finger, if I'm in me car.. But only if their car looks slower than mine .

[Gin]

But most drivers and riders have not looked at the HC since they passed their test.

 

This is true Maybe we can have TC's HC Weekly where you set a question and we have to go look up the answer

I laugh, but if you did I would have to go and find out the answer because I'm like that....

 

A weekly pop quiz over Skype?

I'd join

[TC1474]

A weekly pop quiz over Skype?

I'd join

 

I don't have or do Skype

[al_stu]

A weekly pop quiz over Skype?

I'd join

 

I don't have or do Skype

 

Old school - answers on a postcard please. ..

[Tankbag]

Interesting stuff, I agree the dashcam guy was baiting & both drivers were smegheads. While folks are talking about this I have a front & rear dashcams I like the Eprance 0805, well priced & good low light definition. A mate had a collision at a junction, short version is his insurance said it was 50 50 fault as he had no independent witnesses. My scenario would be a collision at traffic lights & the other driver accuses you of going through a red, well, let them lie & commit lies to their insurance & then you give your dash footage to your own insurance.

Plus I can compile a knobhead on the road video & pay for the next holiday with the youtube channel stream

[Bogof]

I'm guessing that its because undertaking is technically against the law.

 

 

It's not illegal to overtake on the near side.

[Throttled]

The Highway Code Rule 267 states only overtake on the right. Rule 268 states do not overtake on the left unless it is congested and that lane moves faster than lanes to the right. Rule 269 you MUST NOT use the hard shoulder for overtaking.

 

That part of the Highway Code is not law, it is advice, the exception being about the hard shoulder, and even then, that is now wrong to a degree as some Motorways now use the shoulder as a live lane

 

Yes, Sec 38(7) of the RTA 1988 states

"A failure on the part of a person to observe a provision of the Highway Code shall not of itself render that person liable to criminal proceedings of any kind but any such failure may in any proceedings (whether civil or criminal, and including proceedings for an offence under the Traffic Acts, the M1Public Passenger Vehicles Act 1981 or sections 18 to 23 of the M2Transport Act 1985) be relied upon by any party to the proceedings as tending to establish or negative any liability which is in question in those proceedings."

The Highway Code is a way to establish fault. So overtake on the left and if there is an accident you are more likely to held liable.

[TC1474]

The Highway Code is a way to establish fault. So overtake on the left and if there is an accident you are more likely to held liable.

 

Sorry I clearly have no idea what I am talking about as I only have 25 years of traffic law enforcement behind me, now work in the legal profession and teach road traffic law.

Silly me for getting it so wrong and not knowning anything about liability

Perhaps you should take over doing my job for me?

[Guest]

Mr Stockdale, you really are a special cunstable

no excuses for the Lorry driver as his reaction is inexcusable but if you feared for your life why would you spend the next 14 minutes not only following the Lorry but overtaking it?

As for the damage to his car. If a Lorry had sideswiped it at those speeds he'd be lucky to have any panels left.

[Throttled]

The Highway Code is a way to establish fault. So overtake on the left and if there is an accident you are more likely to held liable.

 

Sorry I clearly have no idea what I am talking about as I only have 25 years of traffic law enforcement behind me, now work in the legal profession and teach road traffic law.

Silly me for getting it so wrong and not knowning anything about liability

Perhaps you should take over doing my job for me?

 

Others here may not know what we are referring to, so I added in the details from the RTA 1988. The more people who know and understand the law the better.