Failed mod 2 and now I'm nervous

[Aerodyll]

Hi guys.

I had my mod 2 yesterday. All my instructors said my riding is fine and that I should pass no problem. After the test which went more or less ok I was told I had failed. I had 3 minors and 2 serious faults. One being entering roundabouts a bit too fast and the other for not giving enough time between signalling and lane changing or overtaking.

I don't disagree with these issues and I don't think they were too serious, I was just going a little bit too fast and can easily pull that back by going slower. However now I am worried because what happens next time if I get another examiner and this guy says I am too slow? Then the third guy says I am hesitant? Its over 100 quid each time I go for this test not to mention holiday days lost from work.

I am worried about having a new examiner with a different opinion. And somewhat annoyed that none of my instructors have mentioned these issues during my lessons if they are serious enough to be failed on. They mentioned similar things when I was learning but the last 3 lessons they all said I was riding fine. I still like my school and instructors are fine but can't help but question why this hasn't been pulled up before now.

Thanks

Ben

[MR_W]

It's towards end of the month. Quotas could be kicking in so they are being arses.

Book your retest for early in the month doesn't matter if you are a little slower as I am concerned as that's what keeps you alive. Obviously don't approach at 2mph and you will be fine

[Hoggs]

Hey Ben, I can't comment on how serious that is as I'm not a tester! However is there a possibility you were going a bit quicker than usual due to adrenaline? My test all passed in a bit of a blur! I think generally going a bit slower is better than too quick.

But I think you need to have a chat with your instructor, go do a few roundabouts with him if possible see what they say. Remember you are paying them for a service and you are allowed to voice concerns!

Also I'm pretty sure the quota thing is a myth no?

[Glorian]

Also I'm pretty sure the quota thing is a myth no?

 

Fairly certain it is. Sam as cops giving out speeding tickets and parking wardens parking tickets to meet their quota. They're paid to be picky you might get some who ignore something that should be a fail but might have just been you made 2 mistakes and he couldn't let it slides. Or the guy could've been a genuine ****

[MR_W]

Also I'm pretty sure the quota thing is a myth no?

 

Fairly certain it is. Sam as cops giving out speeding tickets and parking wardens parking tickets to meet their quota. They're paid to be picky you might get some who ignore something that should be a fail but might have just been you made 2 mistakes and he couldn't let it slides. Or the guy could've been a genuine ****

One of my colleagues kept getting the same examiner cos he had pissed the guy off so he kept wanting to fail him.

Fortunately one day someone he hated more was taking a test so he got a nicer examiner.

[nicklucey]

Don't sound like serious faults to me, but if you had done the same minor fault three times it becomes a major if I remember rightly.

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[Six30]

Make the tester a cup of proper Yorkshire tea and do him a Hovis sandwich ... then roll him a roll up and make a fuss of his whippet , then he'll pass you

[Foxy Stoat seeks Pig]

It's towards end of the month. Quotas could be kicking in so they are being arses.

quote]

Jesus, don't say that. My MOD 2 is on the final day of the September.

[bonio]

Ask the instructors and they'll say that some examiners are more easy going than others. So don't sweat over it too much... chances are that next time you'll get someone in a better mood and do just fine. I remember what it feels like though... failing is inconvenient and expensive to boot

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[Aerodyll]

Hi guys. Thanks for the responses.

Calmed down a bit now! I don't think the instructor was an arse or anything just that he decided I was being dangerous.

The first was due to my being stuck behind a stack of cars on a dual carriageway leading to a roundabout. The right lane was clear so I indicated and checked mirrors and it was clear. I started to move but as I did so a car came into view and went down the side of me so i stopped. Just bad timing I suppose but it obviously looked bad to him.

The second issue was when I entered a roundabout. I was going straight on and cars where coming round going straight on the other way. I decided it was clear but a car came round and indicated going right (so as to go infront of me and take what is to me the first exit if that makes sense). Either they didn't indicate until late or I didn't see it until late as it was quite sunny. Anyway I was now going too fast to stop as I had committed to the maneuver so decided it was far safer to go ahead instead of stopping. I wasn't close to the car and they didn't need to slow down for me. I've been on the road on my 125 scooter and done this and seen others do this many many times. Especially on busy roundabouts if you didn't do this you wouldn't make progress. But this too must have been dangerous to him.

I sort of get why the second instance was dangerous especially on a test I should have been careful. But perhaps I think that the real issue is that I was going too fast to begin with as to force me to make snap decisions I should go slower to allow more time to make my mind up.

Its funny but as I was so stressed about my mod 1 and got so worked up about it I kind of walked into this test a bit too relaxed. This is the easy bit according to most and my instructors said my riding was fine so I decided not to worry about it and maybe I overshot it and took the advice 'ride for yourself like the examiner isn't there' a bit too literally. I rode safely and confidently but maybe I was a bit too comfortable.

Booked in for the 7th of october now, fingers crossed. I think I am going to just slow everything down for the test. Slow right down for roundabouts and put my foot down unless it is clear when I get there and give at least a heartbeat before I indicate,look,move. If I get failed due to hesitation though I may flip a table!

Thanks for your comments,

Ben

[Bhawk]

Hey,i have my mod2 on the 7th too... and I'm called ben, lets hope we both pass

[davefly76]

The first was due to my being stuck behind a stack of cars on a dual carriageway leading to a roundabout. The right lane was clear so I indicated and checked mirrors and it was clear. I started to move but as I did so a car came into view and went down the side of me so i stopped. Just bad timing I suppose but it obviously looked bad to him.

 

You don't mention a lifesaver. That and more observation in your mirrors when you were approaching the line of traffic would have helped prevent that. It might have been that he came out from behind the examiner but a good lifesaver would have shown that he was there. If you were to the left of your lane before deciding to take the right hand lane then I would have done two lifesavers, the first to cross the middle of your lane and again to cross the lines to enter the right hand lane.

 

I sort of get why the second instance was dangerous especially on a test I should have been careful. But perhaps I think that the real issue is that I was going too fast to begin with as to force me to make snap decisions I should go slower to allow more time to make my mind up.

 

Seems like you've answered this one yourself already

[Aerodyll]

Bhawk: Good luck mate, to both of us!

davefly76: I was in the right hand side of my line but was stopped. I just began to say why I thought I screwed up but actually ended up pointing out where I messed up quite accurately. I looked down the road, mirror, signal then as I checked the mirror again I had begun to move already. Only very slightly but still I had begun to move before I had properly checked so that must be it. Silly really.

Just thought I would say as my test is tomorrow it has taken all the shine off of my birthday which is today lol. Now I am just nervous!

[Hoggs]

Aww happy birthday Aerodyll, it seems you know why ti went wrong the other time so you'll smash it

[Tango]

Happy Birthday mate......and good luck for tomorrow.......just try to relax and enjoy it.....

[JRH]

Belated birthday wishes an good luck for the test.

[Hoggs]

Aerodyll.... are we celebrating?

[bonio]

....???

[Aerodyll]

We are indeed celebrating!

I passed with 5 minors and hilariously 4 of which where for going too slow in junctions and roundabouts! One was for one instance of bad positioning being on the right side but turning left. I am mega pleased the test is done and I'm now road legal with no L plates. I was stunned I passed too as I hadn't been on a bike for 2 weeks beforehand and I was bloody dire when I got on it yesterday morning. I was stalling all over the place, it was pissing it down and my visor was covered with rain drops. I was horrid I even asked the instructor if I should just bail on this test as I was clearly not up to it. I messed up so much, I nearly dropped the bike and hurt my wrist saving it, outside the test centre!. At one point I pulled over and told my instructor to take my glasses as they were steaming up with the visor down but covered with rain with it up. After that things began to improve and I slowly got back to my previous skill level. It turns out my eyes are 'just' fine for riding so I also passed without my glasses which makes me happy.

I got the nice examiner too he's called Jordi and if you're taking your test at the Rotherham test centre I hope you get him. He is very personable, puts you at your ease and does smile a little bit to show you hes human and makes you feel less like hes out to get you.

The test itself had a few funny bits too but nothing dangerous. The route he took me on didn't have any speed signs as far as I could tell so for almost the entire test I didn't know what speed I should be doing so I just guessed.

Overall one hell of a day, very odd. But I passed! Now I can relax and get used to my own bike a bit before I swap it out with my old scooter.

Thanks for the birthday wishes btw, very unexpected but very kind of you guys. Cheers!

[Foxy Stoat seeks Pig]

Well done Aerodyll. I'm just going outside to remove my L plates too on my 125.

[Tango]

Well done Aerodyll. ......happy days mate.......bike shopping now?......

[Aerodyll]

Congratulations Foxy! And no bike shopping for me, I already have an ER 5 in the garage. Tomorrow when I'm not hungover I will be riding it!

I'll upload a picture when I'm on my PC later

[Arwen]

Congrats on the pass!

[JRH]

Well done Aerodyll

[Remy]

Well done! It's such a lovely feeling to remove those L-plates