colbat12 Posted June 13, 2018 Posted June 13, 2018 Ok, so I have looked around and I'm still stuck when looking for systems for having a radio on a PPT system when riding with both cars and other bikes, HOWEVER.am A: pickyand B: very picky....and thus I want to use my own noise cancelling earphones.to add to the confusion, I want to also be able to listen to music/gps (comes from the same source) and have incoming radio transmissions cut the music and then go back to the music when the transmission is over.bluetooth doesn't do much for me, as the car people will just have cheap PMR radios.The extortionate price of the autocom system doesn't deter me, I just want to know what WILL DEFINITELY work before I spend upwards of £600TLDR: Need PMR PTT radio that I can listen to music on at the same time and use my own earphones on.any help with this one would be grand. Quote
raesewell Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 Talk to the lads at Autocom they are very helpful. Quote
Bender Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 Sena did/used to do an adapter for pmr, but would you not be better off with pmr that has Bluetooth then any of the sena stuff could connect to it as a device, I would go with anything from the 20s up over, currently having issues with a 10 that I'm going to do a review on and it's not going to be good lol.20s evo is great though. Quote
colbat12 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Posted June 14, 2018 Hmm, I'll have a look at sena I just sent them an email, and I have already asked autocom but I'm not sure the system they have would let me change songs or answer calls Quote
onesea Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 Chat with Cardo again they are very helpful, if its bluetooth there packtalk might be able to deal with it....I kind of think given the right set it could be the way forward ok coms might not be private but better range than sena cardo etc given a good set up you could have CB type chat for bikes... Quote
colbat12 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Posted June 14, 2018 cardo seem to only do bluetooth when it comes to communication, where I need a PMR frequency if I want to talk to others in a car with their radios Quote
Joeman Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 With Maplin closing down I bought a pair for cobra Walkie talkies with the motorbike helmet kit and PTT wiring.Currently stashed away in my garage until I figure bout what to do with them! Quote
Bender Posted June 14, 2018 Posted June 14, 2018 Sena has ability to mute music during comes and start it back up again Quote
colbat12 Posted June 14, 2018 Author Posted June 14, 2018 Sena has ability to mute music during comes and start it back up again true, but I need to check if they can connect to a normal PMR radio as well Quote
Bender Posted June 15, 2018 Posted June 15, 2018 It should do if you have your pmr with Bluetooth Quote
colbat12 Posted June 15, 2018 Author Posted June 15, 2018 It should do if you have your pmr with Bluetooth just gone to check out the SR10, so it looks like it can be used with a normal 2 way radio, and has its own PTT button or i could add a more discrete one, but it seems like it can only be used with another bluetooth headset. So basically I'd need the SR10, and another sena bluetooth headset device, and then I can use my own mic and earphones. If my thinking is correct... Quote
Guest Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Radio = TOTP (thing of the past, not top of the pops....) go with Bluetooth, for God's sake. ..... ....And Autocom ? Which museum did you see that in, then? Quote
TimR Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Radio = TOTP (thing of the past, not top of the pops....) go with Bluetooth, for God's sake. ..... ....And Autocom ? Which museum did you see that in, then? pmr distance vs bluetooth pmr wins especially if using between cars and bikes . plus you don't get random taxi and baby monitor broadcasts on bluetooth ... Quote
colbat12 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 Radio = TOTP (thing of the past, not top of the pops....) go with Bluetooth, for God's sake. ..... ....And Autocom ? Which museum did you see that in, then? pmr distance vs bluetooth pmr wins especially if using between cars and bikes . plus you don't get random taxi and baby monitor broadcasts on bluetooth ... yeah this is why, like I said, convoys with cars, and those guys don't want to use bluetooth Quote
raesewell Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 On a recent trip, with Sena 20S evo and a Sena 20S we got a very impressive range of well over half a mile and approaching three quarters of a mile.I could hear my mate even though I couldn't see him in my mirrors. I was very impressed with the range and sound quality. Quote
colbat12 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 On a recent trip, with Sena 20S evo and a Sena 20S we got a very impressive range of well over half a mile and approaching three quarters of a mile.I could hear my mate even though I couldn't see him in my mirrors. I was very impressed with the range and sound quality. all well and good but what if you have like 5 mates in separate cars doing a convoy that are using two way radios set to a PMR frequency? Quote
raesewell Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Don't know. I'm never going to be in that situation. Just passing on my own personal experiences. If they are not of interest to you then feel free to ignore them. Quote
mikestrivens Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 On a recent trip, with Sena 20S evo and a Sena 20S we got a very impressive range of well over half a mile and approaching three quarters of a mile.I could hear my mate even though I couldn't see him in my mirrors. I was very impressed with the range and sound quality. all well and good but what if you have like 5 mates in separate cars doing a convoy that are using two way radios set to a PMR frequency? This would be way too distracting on a motorbike. I'd just use my mobile phone to occasionally keep in touch. Quote
Joeman Posted June 16, 2018 Posted June 16, 2018 Ive thought about this is the past and my conclusion was that the ideal setup woukd be a PMR radio wired to the bike with Bluetooth to the riders helmet. A PTT button on the handlebars. So all you need is a device that can connect to a PMR radio, plug in the mic and speaker port that pairs with a Bluetooth headset. Simples. Bluetooth range is pathetic. I don't actually think commercial motorbike intercoms use Bluetooth from bike to bike, I think they use a proprietary protocol because the Bluetooth specification isn't design to cover large distances. Quote
colbat12 Posted June 16, 2018 Author Posted June 16, 2018 Ive thought about this is the past and my conclusion was that the ideal setup woukd be a PMR radio wired to the bike with Bluetooth to the riders helmet. A PTT button on the handlebars. So all you need is a device that can connect to a PMR radio, plug in the mic and speaker port that pairs with a Bluetooth headset. Simples. Bluetooth range is pathetic. I don't actually think commercial motorbike intercoms use Bluetooth from bike to bike, I think they use a proprietary protocol because the Bluetooth specification isn't design to cover large distances. yeah so far I have seen that the Sena SR10 can connect bluetooth to radios, and also have a PTT button and the bluetooth can connect to another unit that goes to the rider, I think thats gonna be my best bet to be honest, now I'm just trying to get hold of the correct radio, and I need to locate one of those units, but first I need to check with sena what will and what wont work, I may have to sacrifice some fancy functions such as pause, skip songs etc.... Quote
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