Chains

[James in Brum]

Can I have some advice about chains please?

Do you get what you pay for? What should I know?

https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/kawasaki/zzr_600_zx_600_d1-d4/90-93

[Stu]

Yes you get what you pay for

My option has always been Renthal sprockets with either a Tsubaki chain or D.I.D x ring gold

Ebay has always got the best results for me when buying

[FallingDown]

Yes you get what you pay for

My option has always been Renthal sprockets with either a Tsubaki chain or D.I.D x ring gold

Ebay has always got the best results for me when buying

 

I agree and would add Sunstar to the mix for sprockets. Think wemoto stock them aswell

[skyrider]

and how about JT sprockets as well

[fastbob]

JT sprockets , EK or DID chain . Don't expect much change out of £100 for a ZZR 600 . Oh yeah , I've got a good quality rivetting tool that you're welcome to borrow .https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130803292929

Edited March 23, 2020 by fastbob

[Ian Frog]

Nothing to add the guys above have got it covered !

Do your research and if you find a good deal please let us all know.

Cheers

Ian

[skyrider]

what bike are they for James

[James in Brum]

what bike are they for James

 

Zzr600d

[skyrider]

there you go Bob find a good cheap kit for that one

[fastbob]

there you go Bob find a good cheap kit for that one

 

Already done . It's in the link I provided .

[James in Brum]

Thank you all, I have bought the ones [mention]fastbob[/mention] linked.

[fastbob]

Thank you all, I have bought the ones @fastbob linked.

 

If you want to borrow a good quality rivetting tool I'm sure we can arrange a virus free hand over .

[Ian Frog]

Thank you all, I have bought the ones @fastbob linked.

 

If you want to borrow a good quality rivetting tool I'm sure we can arrange a virus free hand over .

 

Do we have a forum riveter?

I was considering buying a whale as I have broken several lighter ones that were supposed to be heavy duty so used to borrow a whale from a dealer friend who has now retired and buggered off.

Then saw the price of the whale and still haven`t completely recovered lol.

Obviously if deposit or similar req then fine with me.

Cheers

Ian

[James in Brum]

I have. A chain tool of some sorts. Will dig it out and message you with pics and see if it is the correct tool. If not yes please

[Guest Richzx6r]

Thank you all, I have bought the ones @fastbob linked.

 

If you want to borrow a good quality rivetting tool I'm sure we can arrange a virus free hand over .

 

Do we have a forum riveter?

I was considering buying a whale as I have broken several lighter ones that were supposed to be heavy duty so used to borrow a whale from a dealer friend who has now retired and buggered off.

Then saw the price of the whale and still haven`t completely recovered lol.

Obviously if deposit or similar req then fine with me.

Cheers

Ian

 

Slightly expensive was it?

[Ian Frog]

https://www.demon-tweeks.com/uk/whale-brand-chain-breaking-and-riveting-tool-bcecbt480-r/

Tell me what you think for something used once a year at best lol.

Cheers

Ian

[Guest Richzx6r]

wtf that is bloody extortionate

[James in Brum]

I stuffed up. I did not check Bob’s link enough, mine is 600d and the chain has arrived and then I check the original listing and realise it is for E’s not D’s.

asking the vendor to return or swap now. Totally my error.

[Ian Frog]

wtf that is bloody extortionate

 

I agree ! However it is the best and unlikely to break.

I have used one on many occasions especially when I was mucking about with swingarm lengths.

All the clamp type and the so called heavy duty ones like the Spada are just not up to the job.

I wish I could justify the cost as it is a simple job to do but needs to be done properly.

Cheers

Ian

[fastbob]

I stuffed up. I did not check Bob’s link enough, mine is 600d and the chain has arrived and then I check the original listing and realise it is for E’s not D’s.

asking the vendor to return or swap now. Totally my error.

 

My apologies , I didn't pay any heed to what model you have . I was just showing that you can get JT sprockets and DID chain for a reasonable price .

[James in Brum]

Entirely my fault [mention]fastbob[/mention] they are happy to refund or exchange.

[James in Brum]

46 outside diameter in my and 38 internal diameter mm.

 

 

That is to screw into the pump ‘out’. I need something to reduce to 25mm ish for this hose.

 

[dern]

I wouldn't bother buying one of those chain tools. Last one I had broke under the strain and took a chunk out of my thumb. The more expensive ones may be stronger but one you start getting to the price link in the thread you may as well get some more general use tools if you don't already have them and achieve the same result.

To remove the chain I just cut it with an angle grinder with a metal cutting wheel. You can knock the heads off the rivets if you like and take it apart that way but if you're throwing the old chain away then just cut through the whole chain.

To fit the new chain I fit the chain to the bike making sure it's the right length and put the link in place. I then use a ball pein hammer and a lump hammer to mushroom the rivet heads. I use the lump hammer as an anvil behind the chain and spread the rivet with the ball pein hammer. The trick is to deform the head of the rivet but while you're doing it keep checking that the link is freely moving. You don't have to deform the rivet that much, the force on the chain isn't lateral.

I've done this for about 20 years and never had a problem. There are plenty of instructional videos on you tube.

[JRH]

I wouldn't bother buying one of those chain tools. Last one I had broke under the strain and took a chunk out of my thumb. The more expensive ones may be stronger but one you start getting to the price link in the thread you may as well get some more general use tools if you don't already have them and achieve the same result.

To remove the chain I just cut it with an angle grinder with a metal cutting wheel. You can knock the heads off the rivets if you like and take it apart that way but if you're throwing the old chain away then just cut through the whole chain.

To fit the new chain I fit the chain to the bike making sure it's the right length and put the link in place. I then use a ball pein hammer and a lump hammer to mushroom the rivet heads. I use the lump hammer as an anvil behind the chain and spread the rivet with the ball pein hammer. The trick is to deform the head of the rivet but while you're doing it keep checking that the link is freely moving. You don't have to deform the rivet that much, the force on the chain isn't lateral.

I've done this for about 20 years and never had a problem. There are plenty of instructional videos on you tube.

 

Except I grind the head off the rivet and push through with a nail punch. Less mess that way.