Gerontious Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 Not said a word to my current insurer about the modifications I have made to the Africa Twin.. which are fairly extensive. though nothing has been 'performance' enhancing. Quote
Bungleaio Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 If it’s not how it came out the factory then it should be declared. They will make the decision as whether it makes any difference to them. In the event of a claim if they see modifications then they may use this as a reason it to pay out. I’ve found that adding tail tidys, crash bungs and lights make no difference to the cost of the policy. Quote
Fiddlesticks Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 There's a difference between accessories and modifications. This page is quite helpful, I guess other insurance companies have similar. https://www.devittinsurance.com/motorbike-insurance/modifications-explained-accessory-or-modification/?amp=1 1 Quote
Stu Posted July 26, 2022 Posted July 26, 2022 3 hours ago, Bungleaio said: If it’s not how it came out the factory then it should be declared. Except if you're insured with bennetts and their policy states whats already covered as per my first post Other insurance companies do the same so do check with them! Quote
bud Posted July 27, 2022 Posted July 27, 2022 On 25/07/2022 at 17:11, daveinlim said: I can see how someone fitting a roll cage to a car would be a red flag for insurers. But you can't accidentally drop your car and it fall on its side. Crash bungs or the likes should free to add for bikes, it's a precaution against a genuine issue. They seem awfully popular on track days for just being something to stop a bike falling over. I think every so often insurance companies must change the way they look at certain modifications. Things like Sat nav, extra lights were never put on bikes years ago. While quick shifters and cruise control are becoming increasingly popular as options to add later. I remember in the 90's when they got really picky and started refusing claims on the different tyres fitted to a bike. Quote
daveinlim Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 I've just changed my bike and told my insurer. I'm with MCE so it's hardly worth the paper it's written on. The asked if I had any mods, I said yes. They asked if I had NOS, or a turbo or a supercharger. I said no. And that's all they wanted to know. They said all other mods are covered and I don't need to detail them. 1 1 Quote
Bender Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, daveinlim said: I've just changed my bike and told my insurer. I'm with MCE so it's hardly worth the paper it's written on. The asked if I had any mods, I said yes. They asked if I had NOS, or a turbo or a supercharger. I said no. And that's all they wanted to know. They said all other mods are covered and I don't need to detail them. You mean all other mods are pointless as they won't pay out Quote
daveinlim Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Bender said: You mean all other mods are pointless as they won't pay out Ya that's why they don't need to know, they won't cover them anyway. I've an end can, tails tidy, heated grips and a new screen. Nothing major that would change performance. I was tempted to get a quote for a turbo though 1 Quote
Ian Frog Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, daveinlim said: Ya that's why they don't need to know, they won't cover them anyway. I've an end can, tails tidy, heated grips and a new screen. Nothing major that would change performance. I was tempted to get a quote for a turbo though Don`t bother ! When I first got the supercharged Busa sorted I had it road legal for a while even though it was primarily aimed at Straightliner`s events. I swear it would have been easier to get an arsonist a job in a fireworks factory than getting sense out of some insurers ! In the end that wasn`t the reason I stopped using it on the road lol. Cheers Ian 1 Quote
daveinlim Posted July 28, 2022 Posted July 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Ian Frog said: Don`t bother ! When I first got the supercharged Busa sorted I had it road legal for a while even though it was primarily aimed at Straightliner`s events. I swear it would have been easier to get an arsonist a job in a fireworks factory than getting sense out of some insurers ! In the end that wasn`t the reason I stopped using it on the road lol. Cheers Ian Don't worry, I won't be charging my new 600. If I want more power I'll get a 1k. Quote
Throttled Posted July 29, 2022 Author Posted July 29, 2022 I had a long chat with Hastings. They are a broker, so they got in touch with their underwriter and the sad answer for me, is that Hastings and their underwriter are very strict with modifications. They agreed a side stand puck is not a side step, but that made no difference to the cost. They also refused to tell me what mod, or if it was the total number of mods, that was causing the price increase, which is unreasonable. I would now not recommend Hastings and I see others are not so strict about mods. Indeed, for now on, I will check to see before getting a quote. 1 Quote
Throttled Posted July 29, 2022 Author Posted July 29, 2022 On 25/07/2022 at 20:27, Stu said: And this is the reason I am with bennetts insurance Other insurance companies do the same so check the policy wording before declaring mods and buying is what I do It was the small print of the policy that had a list like that, which Hastings said were mods and had to be declared. I think that makes Hastings pretty much useless as a bike insurer. 2 Quote
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