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You have not mentioned the air filter. Has that been changed?

Scoremaster points ruling. The scores stand because of the precedent set in previous years where you did not have to get your bike to certain tags, such as the Steve Hislop statue in Hawick. It was reached by path through a park. That got points for anyone who got their tag number to it. There was no disputing I had ridden there because either side were photos of my bike with its tag elsewhere in the borders. There is no dispute Hoggs etc were on their bikes doing the pubs. I also take the point about one person holding another's tag because the other took the photo. That is a sensible and reasonable precedent to set.

On a car and the tyres did stay at the same pressure for longer than they had with normal air.

Monsoon over Erskine. It was one of those rainstorms where gutters are overflowing and the bottom of our road floods.

I have been over Wanlockhead loads of times and never even realised about the Dalveen Pass. I have done my D&G run this year to get the tags.

The weather this year has resulted in many a planned ride cancelled. Yesterday was monsoon.

Oooops...... http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/update/2016-06-24/cornwall-pleas-for-reassurance-it-will-not-be-worse-off-following-brexit-vote/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "Cornwall pleas for reassurance it will not be 'worse off' following Brexit vote Cornwall has issued an urgent plea for reassurance that it will not be worse off following the Brexit vote. The county has received a "significant amounts" of funding from the EU for the past 15 years due to its "relatively weak economy". But, after 56.5% of voters in the county chose to leave the Union, the council says it is now seeking urgent reassurance that money allocated to it will still be received." Cornwall was getting an average of £60 million a year from the EU. The County Council is hoping they will get that from Westminster. But beyond that lack of fore site, this is incredible...... https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-switch/wp/2016/06/24/the-british-are-frantically-googling-what-the-eu-is-hours-after-voting-to-leave-it/?postshare=8141466778634681&tid=ss_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; "The British are frantically Googling what the E.U. is, hours after voting to leave it...... That confusion over what Brexit might mean for the country's economy appears to have been reflected across the United Kingdom on Thursday. Google reported sharp upticks in searches not only related to the ballot measure but also about basic questions concerning the implications of the vote. At about 1 a.m. Eastern time, about eight hours after the polls closed, Google reported that searches for "what happens if we leave the EU" had more than tripled."

Total bollox ... Won't happen. I know, I just wanted to try scaremongering rather than facts for a change! Back to the facts. The reality is we are likely to stay in the EEA because it means free and easy trade. That also means free and easy movement of workers, which will confuse many who thought leave meant an end to immigration and removal of foreigners. It costs Norway 388 million euros a year to be in the EEA (£316 milllion). UK membership is likely to cost much more as we do far more trade, which will confuse many who thought a vote to leave meant no more money to the EU and lots of money for hospitals. Norway actually pays the EU 478 million euros (£388 million) a year to be in the parts of the EU it wants to be in despite not being in the EU. So unless the Brexit government lead by ? (Boris) can negotiate cheaper or free membership, which it cannot, that means even more money to the EU. Not that Brexit ever told anyone that. So when lots of Polish people are still here in a few years working away, the already confused will possibly have a melt down and reality will bite.

Back from a holiday in Northumberland in a lovely hotel staffed by many Europeans; Polish, French and a Turk. When all the UK pensioners have to return from Spain we can get them to pull our pints and change our beds. Or is that a made up scaremongering lie which will come home to roost as reality bites

Oops! Just did in the other thread.. It's this lot + Walden castle a while ago, as a group picture, for me Is that 9 pubs plus one other tag so 100 points for you?

I have got Hoggs and Rants totals and added them to the scores. Please confirm the rest of you and what your score is now, thanks

All of my offs, I have had three on the move and a few drops getting off the bike have been because of a loss of grip on wet/greasy/rough/icy roads. Unless you only go out in the bone dry and on decent roads, you are at risk of loosing grip. The secret to survival is to keep your speed down. Lower speed means less of impact and so a greater chance of survival. I suspect you would get a lot of benefit from riding off road on a trail or BOAT or doing an off road course. It will help you to relax more when it does get slippy.

I have not seen it, but apparently Farage has accepted none of those depicted in the hordes of immigrants poster can or would get into the UK. So he went on a rant about Schengen and the Euro, until it was pointed out we are not in either of them. I was going to stay out of the debate, but since the MP was murdered it is all the more important for people to vote on the facts and not the rhetoric.

A summary of Dougan's speech - 1 - the UK is a sovereign state which negotiates with numerous international organisations without loosing its sovereignty. If the UK leaves the EU it will still have to negotiate with the EU. How can Brexit claim leaving increases sovereignty when we already have it and we will always have to negotiate one way or another with the EU, in it or out of it? All negotiations are a trade off. 2 - it is wrong to say this is a debate about us and them. The UK is one of the big three with France and Germany and nothing happens in the EU without the say or agreement of the big three. Majority voting and consensus determine decisions. If the UK leaves, voting and consensus will not take the UK's wants into consideration. 3 - the Balance of Competencies review, a review of EU membership, the biggest in UK Civil Service history. The result was overwhelmingly positive for the EU and it brings added value to UK policy making. The arguments from Leave are at worst dishonest, at best mistaken. There are four challenges if the UK leaves 1 - need for a comprehensive review of UK law due to EU legislation adopted in the UK. Parliament will not be able to do it. Civil servants and ministers will determine laws without any voting. 2 - good chance of a second Scottish referendum, problems for NI as it has a border with an EU state 3 - reformulation of UK relations with the EU and EU countries, primarily what to do with the 3 million EU residents in the UK and the 2 million UK residents in the EU. It is suspected it will take at least 10 years to sort, the Swiss have been negotiated bilaterally since 1972. The UK will likely end up doing the same for ever more. 4 - the Single Market means one set of rules for products to be sold in the EU and allows market integration. Leave the EU, we need to stay in the single market as Norway does, but we have no say at all. All economists agree trade is harder outside the single market. 5 - leaving the EU ends all trade agreements elsewhere in the world, since they were are all negotiated in the EU. The open UK market which is in the EU Single Market is very attractive for China, India and the USA to trade with. Leave the EU and it is not so attractive. He does not bother to go into the immigration debate, he is a PHd law Professor but it is not his field of expertise.

"The leave campaign has degenerated into dishonesty really, on an industrial scale." - Prof Michael Dougan, University of Liverpool. Professor of European Law.

The tag line of breaking free of the EU and taking back control of our borders is a lie. We were never in Schengen, which has pretty much ended all over Europe now anyway and we have always had control of our borders. That various immigrants try and do get through will not end by leaving the EU. Non EU immigrants are nothing to do with the EU. The UK agreed to allow EU immigration because it suits the UK to have hundreds of thousands of UK citizens working freely in the EU, the second most after Poland. Those migrants out of the UK are mainly highly skilled, usually multi lingual and they will not be replacing the Polish crop pickers and cleaners who UKIP want to send back. Confuse a UKIP supporter and ask them about immigration form the Commonwealth, the EU and the rest of the world and what regulations apply to what and who is allowed to do what. They will not know and they will just blame the whole thing on the EU. Then you will know they have just lied to you.

I am in doubt myself that the horrible, nasty, rhetoric of the campaign has created an atmosphere that help result in someone with mental health and hate issues killing an MP. The lack of facts and ignorance that has been spouted has been disgusting. For example this scaremongering; http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/scalefit_630_noupscale/5762970815000030001b9bb6.png That uncontrolled wave of immigration has taken place in south eastern Europe, no where near the UK. It is due to wars in Lybia, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan, which we have encouraged and participated in. The UK has always controlled it own borders as it has never been in the Schengen agreement and in any case, those immigrants are from outside the EU and they are mainly refugees from war. So only a very few of those in the poster will get anywhere near the UK. It is also the UKs job to stop illegal immigrants getting in and it is not the EUs to prevent them getting here. As for immigration to the UK.... https://www.gov.uk/guidance/immigration-rules/immigration-rules-index ....if you have got a few hours to read through it, please notice legislation such as the Immigration Act 1971, which clearly has sweet FA to do with the EU and the Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) Order 2000 which is UK legislation. UK rules are very complicated because of the Commonwealth and our ties with certain parts of the world such as India. Leaving will not change that and Albanians will still try and row across the Channel and Syrians will still hide in the backs of lorries.

You are not wrong. Yugoslavia began to break up in the late 1980s and descended into civil war in 1991 and fighting went on through out the 1990s, with NATO bombing in 1999 (when they hit the Chinese Embassy amongst other places). The EU as we know it now only came into being in 2009 with the Lisbon Treaty. It and its predecessors have never had a military function. Only Slovenia and Croatia are former Yugoslavian States that are in the EU. Others such as Serbia are going through the slow process of joining and are presently associate members. No government is prefect. One reason why we need the EU is because the legislation it deals with would have to pass onto the UK parliaments and that would swamp them. Meanwhile Brexit act as if we will always get perfect for us deals negotiating individually with each country or the EU as a whole, which is clearly crap. As it is, the UK gets its way with votes in the EU going our way about 90% of the time.

definitely.. Nato. has helped prevent a hot war between the Soviets and the west... but was ineffective in preventing slaughter in Europe during the early 90s. obviously the Balkan war is forgettable... the victims were mainly muslim and who cares about them. Yes and the EU did such a good job in the Balkans didn't it. OH wait thats wrong. Since the Balkan states have joined the EU they have gone from strength to strength under democratically elected governments and any issues are negotiated. They were bearing the brunt of the immigration crisis and instead of fighting they sorted out the problems through negotiation in the EU. Prior to that the EU had nothing to do with events in the region. Instead NATO if anything made things worse at times and failed to prevent genocide.

He seems to have forgotten that NATO is the reason for peace in Europe. But the EU got the Noble Peace Prize, not NATO. NATO is for if there is a war, or when then is a war, such as in the Balkans and it is presently causing tensions with the Russians due to war games in eastern Europe. The EU has no military activity and campaigns for peace and democracy. NATO has helped maintain peace with the Russians, not within Europe itself.

No, any will do.

OOps, that should have been the north/east of Scotland, the Grampians. The north west will be in a couple of weeks time and Applecross is not on my planned route.

Just back from the north/west of Scotland tags. Wow! Never been there before and the roads are universally outstanding. Just got Orkney and Shetland to do and I have been everywhere in Scotland.

Corgarff Castle. (It is not small, just very far away) Duffus Castle Tolquhon Castle Dunottar Castle Drum Castle

Her and her ilk is one the reasons why I have taken the opportunity to retire early. It is going to get worse because during the recruitment bulge to replace the retirement bulge, a good number of unsuitable people were recruited. They are now starting to get promoted.