Speed fines Spain and Portugal touring 2024

[Bruin3182]

Hi all….

 

firstly apooogies for the long post…

 

So, I went touring in Spain/Portugal in May this year. I have come home today to a speeding fine from the A366 (a renown motorcycle road) in Spain for 84km in a 50km limit. 
 

NOW BEFORE YOU GET ON YOU HIGH HORSES - I’ve checked the exact location described on the speeding with google maps and:
 

This I a wide open sweeping bend stretch of of A366. It is NOT at all built up so there was little if any other traffic (probably none) No houses or businesses and certainly no pedestrians. 
there were good views some distance ahead - and to most of you 84Kmh would probably be a bit pedestrian. 
 

The camera was a portable tripod model which had a remote wireless link to a police car which was out of sight and probably some distance away.  I’ve researched this as the ticket came with the speeding endorsement device certificate. 
 

this was more than likely hidden as we were obviously alert for cameras as most of us are these days. 

 

I’m now concerned more tickets might be incoming as the switching of speed limits varying between 120-30kmh on open roads with no obvious hazards seemed random at best?? So we kind of just maintained our speeds and rode to the conditions…

Obviously Paying close attention And abiding by limits in built up areas though. 
 

has anyone had any experience with this??

 

 

[husoi]

Portugal and Spain law doesn't mandate the speed cameras to be on sight.

It will sound like a joke but Portuguese police even hide them in wheely bins or the back of what you would think is a broken down very old rusty van, you pass it and the camera is fitted on the back with the doors open.

They surely will send you the fines. You will have 14 days to pay at discounted price and you won't have any points on your license.

Next time behave

Edited June 27, 2024 by husoi

[husoi]

Forgot to mention.

If they stop you and you get a fine, they will demand you to pay on the spot.

If you say that you don't have any money with you they will take you to the nearest ATM and back

[Bender]

Local police in Spain are mehhh and couldn't care less, mostly, civil guardia can get very excitable as for speeding fines they love them, I do believe we don't have a reciprocating deal so the Spanish can speed away over here.

 

Good luck, hope there's not more on the way, they were all over the bloody place when in-laws lived our there 

[bonio]

Bad luck mate.

 

I got so confused once by speed limits changing randomly outside Agadir, they were bound to get me. There was a speed trap just after the fifth or sixth speed change, and I won myself an on the spot fine. Or that's what I should have got, but when I got my wallet out to show the copper my licence, a load of crisp notes fell out. The coppers beamed and his eyes lit up like a Christmas tree and suddenly it was understood that I was offering him a bribe, and in an instant I was too far into the deal to get out. £30. Not my finest hour.

 

As you've gathered, we've sealed a new deal with Spain allowing them to send speeding tickets back to us in the UK. It came into force last year - here's the announcement from giv.uk website: Agreement in the form of an Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Kingdom of Spain on the Reciprocal Recognition and Exchange of National Driving Licences and on the Exchange of Information on Road Safety Related Traffic Offences (publishing.service.gov.uk).

 

I don't know what other countries it applies to.

 

 

[curlylegend]

In France they just shoot you. Unless you're French.

[husoi]

16 minutes ago, curlylegend said:

In France they just shoot you. Unless you're French.

Then you get hanged after been made to eat 12 croissants

[Bender]

18 hours ago, bonio said:

Bad luck mate.

 

I got so confused once by speed limits changing randomly outside Agadir, they were bound to get me. There was a speed trap just after the fifth or sixth speed change, and I won myself an on the spot fine. Or that's what I should have got, but when I got my wallet out to show the copper my licence, a load of crisp notes fell out. The coppers beamed and his eyes lit up like a Christmas tree and suddenly it was understood that I was offering him a bribe, and in an instant I was too far into the deal to get out. £30. Not my finest hour.

 

As you've gathered, we've sealed a new deal with Spain allowing them to send speeding tickets back to us in the UK. It came into force last year - here's the announcement from giv.uk website: Agreement in the form of an Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Kingdom of Spain on the Reciprocal Recognition and Exchange of National Driving Licences and on the Exchange of Information on Road Safety Related Traffic Offences (publishing.service.gov.uk).

 

I don't know what other countries it applies to.

 

 

If it's reciprocal that's an improvement on the one way.

 

@husoii like croissants

[Bungleaio]

21 hours ago, bonio said:

Bad luck mate.

 

I got so confused once by speed limits changing randomly outside Agadir, they were bound to get me. There was a speed trap just after the fifth or sixth speed change, and I won myself an on the spot fine. Or that's what I should have got, but when I got my wallet out to show the copper my licence, a load of crisp notes fell out. The coppers beamed and his eyes lit up like a Christmas tree and suddenly it was understood that I was offering him a bribe, and in an instant I was too far into the deal to get out. £30. Not my finest hour.

 

As you've gathered, we've sealed a new deal with Spain allowing them to send speeding tickets back to us in the UK. It came into force last year - here's the announcement from giv.uk website: Agreement in the form of an Exchange of Notes between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Kingdom of Spain on the Reciprocal Recognition and Exchange of National Driving Licences and on the Exchange of Information on Road Safety Related Traffic Offences (publishing.service.gov.uk).

 

I don't know what other countries it applies to.

 

 

I wish I was there for that. Proud of you. 

[bonio]

Thanks for your support buddy - means a lot. The bold text was especially touching. 

[curlylegend]

6 hours ago, Bender said:

If it's reciprocal that's an improvement on the one way.

I wonder if as many Spanish Motorcyclist come to the Untied Kingdom as British riders go to Spain ? 

Maybe the regulars on the Portsmouth to Santander ferries could enlighten me ?

[Bender]

On 28/06/2024 at 22:58, curlylegend said:

I wonder if as many Spanish Motorcyclist come to the Untied Kingdom as British riders go to Spain ? 

Maybe the regulars on the Portsmouth to Santander ferries could enlighten me ?

I think the answer to that will be a resounding no. 

[husoi]

13 hours ago, curlylegend said:

I wonder if as many Spanish Motorcyclist come to the Untied Kingdom as British riders go to Spain ? 

Maybe the regulars on the Portsmouth to Santander ferries could enlighten me ?

Why would anyone leave the sunny amazing near perfect tarmac in Spain to come and ride on potholes in the rain and wind on the wrong side of the road?

Edited June 29, 2024 by husoi

[bonio]

You tell me mate.

[S-Westerly]

When I was in Galicia last year just about half of the bikes I saw where British. The only time I've seen a Spanish bike in the UK was a chap on his way to the TT. If I was based in Spain I'd not be rushing to ride our over crowded 3rd world roads either.

[husoi]

Not to mention the food and wine...

 

Or the Spanish guapas

[bonio]

Crowded roads here are a great reason to go on tour abroad. I guess that's why you see a lot of Dutch bikes, too. That, and there's hardly a bend in the whole of The Netherlands.

[S-Westerly]

That said on my way north on Thursday I passed a bunch of Dutch bikers who looked to be heading off into the Peak district judging from the exit they took off the M1.

[curlylegend]

I know of one French rider who led a small group motards on a tour of Scotland. They'd heard such bad reports of riding through England that they decided to cross into Ireland and ride into the North to cross into Scotland at Cairnryan.

They all agreed that they had some of the most spectacular rides in their lives.  But sadly they were heavily outweighed by the effects of typical Scotch weather. They'd went in June but at times some of them were on the verge of hypothermia. Other times violent winds forced them to a halt. Unexplained road closures meant long detours which were poorly sign posted.

These were experienced motorcyclists who'd toured extensively on the continent, but they all said "Never Again !"

They did say that the hospitality was first class and the food was much better than they expected.  But not a single one of their hosts were Scotch ?  Mostly English and a Polish couple.

[husoi]

Sounds about right @curlylegend

You will find out that most riders from abroad in Scotland are from northern Europe.