Bridgestone T33 tyre launch

[Punts]

 

Bridgestone have launched a new sport touring tyre, the T33.
A newer version of the T32 will be available in January 2025.
No prices yet, but the claim of a 47% increase in mileage is a big leap, time will tell.

I run T32's at the moment and get between 5 and 6k from them on a Blackbird and ZZR1400.
I've been running Bridgestone tyres for the last twenty years, it's a mind thing, as long as you haven't had a slide or fallen off, you have confidence in what's fitted.

Price and wear have an effect on what I buy as well. My ZZR1400 came with new Bridgestone S22's fitted, the recommended tyre, I "managed" to get 1500 miles out of the rear.

Link to MCN, Bridgestone launch Battlax Sport Touring T33 tyre

[bonio]

3 hours ago, Punts said:

My ZZR1400 came with new Bridgestone S22's fitted, the recommended tyre, I "managed" to get 1500 miles out of the rear.

So, let me hazard a guess... the ZZR does 0 to 60 fairly effortlessly??

[bud]

The S22 is more of a sporty tyre. If it was the tyre fitted from the factory. It could be way different to the S22 you buy from a tyre dealer. OEM tyres are always a gamble. And nearly always worse than aftermarket fitment.

To be honest that's not bad what you are getting for those sort of bikes at the moment. It would depend on the price difference for me if it was worth the upgrade.

[RideWithStyles]

Sounds like an ad…

 

oem are different and made to primarily to a price point while hitting a few low criteria, helps if you get it from a homeland manufacturer.

What you buy off the shelf is way better and nearly always cheaper than oem due to the higher volumes its producing even with better specs it brings.

its simple formula with flintstones- T for touring, roads and distance, S for additional odd slow track day, R for faster track. very much a pigeon hole way thats easy to understand.

s22, have about around 4-5mm of tread on the rear at most….t’s get closer to 8mm off memory. 

 

i take the increase claims (marketing bs) with a bucket of salt. Easy to play with numbers and percentages to make it seem greatly more but really it isn’t.

Otherwise track tyres would all be doing well over 30thou easy by now….

 

[husoi]

I have T32 on the pan and very happy with it.

Yes I ride fast at times when not touring and have no complains.

[Capt Sisko]

On 02/11/2024 at 22:33, bud said:

The S22 is more of a sporty tyre. If it was the tyre fitted from the factory. It could be way different to the S22 you buy from a tyre dealer. OEM tyres are always a gamble. And nearly always worse than aftermarket fitment.

I've never understood this. If the OEM tyre isn't as good as it could be, therefore the bike isn't a good as it could be. As a bike manufacturer, why would you do that? I can accept the argument of cheap but adequate tyres being put on something basic, low powered and manufactured down to a price point as being valid as part of keeping the manufacturing cost down, but on something costing numerous thousands to pounds, especially when they're purporting to be the genuine article, no.
 

Then you look at it from customers point of view. You change tyres, put on say Michelin instead of Dunlop and all of a sudden the handling of your bike is transformed and the tyre not only grips better but they last longer. What does the customer think, hey these Michelins are great, I'm never going back to those rubbish Dunlops. Result, Dunlop lose a customer. Some will also rubbish them on social media and maybe influence others by their remarks. Dunlop or whoever lose more sales.

 

In the overall scheme of things if you're paying £10k for a new bike, how much extra would genuine S22 cost over & above the OEM budget version? ‘For Want of a Nail’ etc.

 

Edited November 8, 2024 by Capt Sisko

[bud]

I guess the manufacturer decides on certain criteria. Cost must be the main driving force.

I remember an article by one of the tyre manufacturers years ago. They were supplying Harley Davidson. The number one thing Harley riders wanted in the US, was high mileage from a tyre. Even if grip and handling suffered as a result! 

[RideWithStyles]

Well if you gulp at £200-500 tyres that wear out quickly, just think what’s it’s like for a manufacturer for a bike theyll never have to ride .

It will be either Michelin or Avon, depending on the age and what bike it was supplied for.

 

[S-Westerly]

8 hours ago, RideWithStyles said:

Well if you gulp at £200-500 tyres that wear out quickly, just think what’s it’s like for a manufacturer for a bike theyll never have to ride .

It will be either Michelin or Avon, depending on the age and what bike it was supplied for.

 

Both my recent bikes came with Pirelli tyres, Scorpion Rally on one and Angel GT on other.

[Steve_M]

16 hours ago, bud said:

I guess the manufacturer decides on certain criteria. Cost must be the main driving force.

I remember an article by one of the tyre manufacturers years ago. They were supplying Harley Davidson. The number one thing Harley riders wanted in the US, was high mileage from a tyre. Even if grip and handling suffered as a result! 

Hence the number of “dark siders”.  

[bud]

I had forgotten about that crazy bunch.

[RideWithStyles]

On 08/11/2024 at 20:49, bud said:

I remember an article by one of the tyre manufacturers years ago. They were supplying Harley Davidson. The number one thing Harley riders wanted in the US, was high mileage from a tyre. Even if grip and handling suffered as a result! 

 

On 09/11/2024 at 01:00, RideWithStyles said:

Well if you gulp at £200-500 tyres that wear out quickly, just think what’s it’s like for a manufacturer for a bike theyll never have to ride .

It will be either Michelin or Avon, depending on the age and what bike it was supplied for.

 

 

On 09/11/2024 at 09:35, S-Westerly said:

Both my recent bikes came with Pirelli tyres, Scorpion Rally on one and Angel GT on other.

Westy I was referring to buds post, thinking on It will be either Avon (flames and white walls, Michelin (live wire), Dunlop more racy tyres they would use as there earlier ones D200s were shockingly bad.