Tyres Not quite off road...

[onesea]

My Enfield Hymalain front tyre is, starting to get a bit low on tread.

 

The challenge is the replacement, previous bikes have all had street/ touring tyres.   This has knoblies and I like however 99% of my riding is road riding in all weathers but snow and ice.

 

The interesting times are 10% and I hope an increasing amount of that is on roads that are some what rutted with grass and gravel growing up the middle, not quite unpaved.

 

Often caked in mud, with gravel and grit coating.  Not roads I would put road tyres on regularly.  Hopefully tomorrow I will get some pictures of the surfaces I mean.

 

What would you recommend.

 

[Mickly]

Michelin Anakee Wilds, these are a 50/50 tyre

“MICHELIN Radial-X Technology, used for the first time on a Michelin knobbly tyre, makes for on-road stability and rider comfort”

These are knbblish tyres but durable on the road, not really for muddy green laning but can be used as such if your prepared to slow down and maybe paddle a bit.

[Capt Sisko]

Dunlop Mutants are billed as crossover type tyre. I think they're aimed at bigger bike than a Hymalain though, but worth a look anyway.

https://www.dunlop.eu/en_gb/motorcycle/tires/mutant--mutant.html

 

[Steve_M]

6 minutes ago, Mickly said:

Michelin Anakee Wilds, these are a 50/50 tyre

“MICHELIN Radial-X Technology, used for the first time on a Michelin knobbly tyre, makes for on-road stability and rider comfort”

These are knbblish tyres but durable on the road, not really for muddy green laning but can be used as such if your prepared to slow down and maybe paddle a bit.

A mate has them on his GS and rates them highly.

[Phil1]

Maybe the street or the adventure could be more appropriate. The wild looks quite rugged for mostly road use and I dare say is noisier. 

[bonio]

Another vote for the mutants. Great on road, even at 70 mph. Superb on lanes with grass up the middle and potholes and gravel. Equally good on gravel tracks. And they even put in a noble effort faced with sandy trails.

[RideWithStyles]

Michelin are great tyres and i don’t mind there tyres, have a softer feeling to them but you might find the front wearing before the rear and it will definitely be a change a set each time rather than a two rear to one front scenario.

 

Mutants are quite road bias but they have the 4season certificate for mud and snow!

so its essentially and all seasons tyre for bikes.

They are available in all sorts of sizes and bikes.

its one I’m interested in myself as I think things will change where I might have to use the bike daily.

 

 
another tyre available are anlas, these probably are touch more off road and winter weather capable but still a road tyre. Designed and made in turkey off memory. They do small bikes and larger shell sizes for it, just double check they have your size.

good grooves for water displacement and thick mud/stones but these de bend on an extra feature of snipes (the tiny zigzags) their real benefit is for snow and mud (also heat control) as it pack in and clings other material to give it purchase and grip.

unfortunately they probably ain’t much cheaper than the others given the name but they have been round a long time with proper R&D, testing facilities and factory.

 

[onesea]

Ok the beach shot where because I could ..

 

When pushed into passing places, they are somewhat unmade.

 

Edited Tuesday at 12:08 by onesea

[Simon Davey]

That's proper exploring

[RideWithStyles]

Knobbies would be great at the beach and deep plugging stuff but the harder packed parts will chamfer the edges off the knobbies prematurely affecting the purpose of them to work properly.

unless you let them down some for the hard pack but then they will handle terribly.

id go with what we’ve been saying, mostly road with a “light going” loose stuff, so road 80-20dirt.

 

no this ain’t aimed at you but just saying out….tyres are very important but they can’t necessarily get you out of the shit if you screw up (poor technic), advise off road training…

reason I say because like with trackdays, you don’t need nor use the stickiest things going if your riding slowly or poorly.

 

this might be a shock but if you like those tyres why not just get them again? Just instead of oem spec get their aftermarket ones? They will be way better. 

[onesea]

8 minutes ago, RideWithStyles said:

" advise off road training…"

Fully agree, however... 

1) I don't want to use my own bike,

2) I would like to go with a driver, incase I brake myself

 

Tyre wise OEM not bad call, however interested in what's out there.

 

41 minutes ago, Simon Davey said:

That's proper exploring

Hopefully before long it will no longer be exploring.  Just down the road

[Simon Davey]

@onesea

Wow, that sounds pretty exciting, and possibly quite daunting. 

[Mickly]

@onesea

on reflection, looking at what you intend to be doing, I think the Anakee Wilds wouldn’t be the right choice, something more road focussed with an off road capability is probably the way to go.

[Capt Sisko]

11 hours ago, RideWithStyles said:

another tyre available are anlas, these probably are touch more off road and winter weather capable but still a road tyre.

I don't know if the situation is the same with motorcycle winter tyres, but car winter tyres are not recommended for summer use. They both will wear very quickly and provide less grip (i.e. a longer braking distance) than summer tyres. Obviously the reverse, in particular the grip bit is true in the winter. I've never had winter tyres on any of my motorbikes, but I've used them on cars for years. They really do make a huge difference in the snow & cold weather carpared to summer tyres.

Edited Tuesday at 19:42 by Capt Sisko

[Steve_M]

4 hours ago, onesea said:

Fully agree, however... 

1) I don't want to use my own bike,

2) I would like to go with a driver, incase I brake myself

 

Tyre wise OEM not bad call, however interested in what's out there.

 

Hopefully before long it will no longer be exploring.  Just down the road

Off road training… I’ve had a couple of weekends with Trail Ride Wales on their Honda CRF250’s. I initially had a day just with Marriane teaching me basics then joined groups to explore further afield. Great fun and helped improve my general riding confidence.

[RideWithStyles]

2 hours ago, Capt Sisko said:

I don't know if the situation is the same with motorcycle winter tyres, but car winter tyres are not recommended for summer use. They both will wear very quickly and provide less grip (i.e. a longer braking distance) the summer tyres. Obviously the reverse, in particular the grip bit is true in the winter. I've never had winter tyres on any of my motorbikes, but I've used them on cars for years. They really do make a huge difference in the snow carpared to summer tyres.

Agreed.

i had them on two cars, including all seasons on others- Bloodly brilliant for our climate!

yes they have a slight difference in summer but if you don’t ride like a complet tw@t when its 20-25*c + they do the job - just pay a little attention to the pressures to temp and they’ll last longer so it’s all good.

the way I see it - it’s far easier to crash trying to keep it on line in winter than in baking hot tarmac.

 

nothing more more funny than a nobber in a 4x4 with summer tyres struggling to not ditch it when I’m in a what they would call a shite box, over taking them at least 40mph faster on a back road and make them look ridiculous,

the games I used to do in the old panda, Oh great days!

Edited Tuesday at 20:52 by RideWithStyles
Relive the old days.