Bike purchase is turning into a long running saga.

[Throttled]

I have been thinking about a cruiser for some time now and in February, I saw a review of the Morbidelli MBP C1002V. It is a new, old Italian brand, resurrected by the Keeway group who also own Benelli. There were only a few bikes in the country, most of which were being used as demos and by YouTubers. I knew I was going to the Scottish motorbike show on the 8th March and waited to see one there. I was happy with what I saw, it fits me and so I said to MotoGB, via my local dealers, I would like to trade my bike in. Apparently that can all be done online, but I went into the dealers the next week, they took the photos and we agreed a price and one was ordered. MotoGBs website suggests availability in 7 days, but the dealer said it would be longer, as they were waiting on the next shipment. That was confirmed on a YouTuber video and MotoGBs facebook page, where they post pictures of the crates as they arrive. The 7 days turns out to be 4 and a half weeks and I get notified the bike is at the dealers. Of course, timing means we are on holiday, so I tell the dealer I will pop in when we get back. That was yesterday, and only then, did they book it into their workshop to get the necessary done to put it on the road. That means it will be another 2 and a half weeks, as we are right into the busy season and I know they are mechanics down, as they are advertising for two to start asap. The dealer has also not heard back from MotoGB about arrangements to collect my trade in, as it is going elsewhere in their dealer group, so I am in effect bikeless, as I don't want to use it and run up more miles.

 

I do get the delays, it is a new bike from a new company, supply is clearly limited, the dealer is snowed under with work, but this is so frustrating, I have to vent. It is sitting there, at the dealers, with a sold sign on it that I hope people respect and look, don't touch. I might have to visit it occasionally.

 

[Simon Davey]

That's a bit of a bugger. 

Not much anyone can offer in way of consolation, except that, it's there at the dealer, you know it's just a short hop to the next stage of you collecting it. 

Good luck, it'll be worth the wait. 

[Throttled]

I have always bought bikes already physically at a dealers. This is the first time ordering one. Has anyone else experienced delays when ordering a bike?

[RideWithStyles]

Well sorry to say it again MotoGP are self inflicted arse holes…that not just my opinion but dealers working with them too.

they couldn’t work the “benelli” name with more time/better known name and effort Yey still fail.
Also what the fook has your dealers /sealers terrible work ethic got to do with you suffering cos they can’t work properly? all it show reading between the lines they have problems, it’s so bad the have problems they cant bs their shit around it enough, if I was to put it diplomatically.

[bonio]

I put an order in once for a Triumph and had to wait three months or so for it come. But it came on the date they said it would, and when it came it was mine to take away, none of this it's come but you can't have it yet marlarkey. 

[S-Westerly]

My recent bikes have all been ready for collection within a few days of placing the order but they were in the dealers possession if not on the show room floor.

[Throttled]

12 hours ago, bonio said:

I put an order in once for a Triumph and had to wait three months or so for it come. But it came on the date they said it would, and when it came it was mine to take away, none of this it's come but you can't have it yet marlarkey. 

 

That is the part which is most annoying, that the dealer did not book the bike in to get the work done as soon as they knew it was being delivered, rather than waiting nearly a week for me to get back from holiday and ask when I could take it away. I know they are very busy, so they push work into the future and I also think it suits them to have it on display. They have also ended their Royal Enfield dealership status, so the size of the showroom has more than halved.

 

[Throttled]

13 hours ago, RideWithStyles said:

Well sorry to say it again MotoGP are self inflicted arse holes…that not just my opinion but dealers working with them too.

they couldn’t work the “benelli” name with more time/better known name and effort Yey still fail.
Also what the fook has your dealers /sealers terrible work ethic got to do with you suffering cos they can’t work properly? all it show reading between the lines they have problems, it’s so bad the have problems they cant bs their shit around it enough, if I was to put it diplomatically.

 

I always worked it to get my bikes service in November/December, when they drop their labour rates by 20% because the number of bikes needing servicing, work drops off a cliff. I have been there when the mechanics were sitting around with nothing to do. Come the motorbike show, then Easter and all the fair weather bikers coming out and demand goes through the roof. This would not have happened if the deal was done come the autumn as demand drops. 

 

If you booked your bike in for a service now, how long would it be before you could get a slot?

[Davidtav]

I’ve got similar with a car. So I ordered a new car in December 2024 and expecting to have it with the new registration in March. I haven’t got the car. Latest I’ve heard fro garage is car was damaged in transit and the import centre are waiting for a new wheel. Very inclined to cancel

[Mawsley]

With the Harley off the road for a bit, I'm still trying to get the wife to agree to me buying a second machine.

 

She's not said no to this: a Monkey Davidson Electraglide

 

I MUST have it! 

[S-Westerly]

2 hours ago, Davidtav said:

I’ve got similar with a car. So I ordered a new car in December 2024 and expecting to have it with the new registration in March. I haven’t got the car. Latest I’ve heard fro garage is car was damaged in transit and the import centre are waiting for a new wheel. Very inclined to cancel

Surely they could have just swapped the wheel out for one from another showroom model? Or if they damaged a wheel what else did they manage? I'd be quite depressed over this.

[Davidtav]

54 minutes ago, S-Westerly said:

Surely they could have just swapped the wheel out for one from another showroom model? Or if they damaged a wheel what else did they manage? I'd be quite depressed over this.

I completely agree. Probably cancel this week 

[bud]

I ordered a Piaggio scooter for use as my work commuter in 2019. That was delayed by six months. But I guess we all know what happened around that time.

 

You think as a new customer who has paid for your bike. The company would be doing everything possible to make your buying experience a good one.

[RideWithStyles]

I know it’s annoying but Well they dont just do thT for wheels as everything has to be accounted for.
any claim against the transport company has to go to them then the paper work has to line up for what and why they order another wheel or what else they damage from the manufacturer plus post, vat and labour cost….it adds up.

Ask them if you can keep the damaged wheel and tyre?, just in case you properly damage one and have a free spare or if the car has the well space under the floor cover, you have full spare ready.

[Throttled]

13 hours ago, bud said:

I ordered a Piaggio scooter for use as my work commuter in 2019. That was delayed by six months. But I guess we all know what happened around that time.

 

You think as a new customer who has paid for your bike. The company would be doing everything possible to make your buying experience a good one.

 

I watched a YouTuber review, who said that shipments of the bikes are months apart and selling out on arrival. It maybe they are victims of their own success and cannot keep up. Bar some name changes, the exact same bike, down to the Metzeler tyres, is being sold in China, India and everywhere in between. It has only recently come to Europe.

 

Maybe it has also been affected by the semi-conductor shortage that has affected so much manufacturing?

[Davidtav]

Update on my situation with the car. I’ve cancelled the order. Not sure what to do now.  I do need a vehicle. Might go electric 

[Yorky]

18 minutes ago, Davidtav said:

Update on my situation with the car. I’ve cancelled the order. Not sure what to do now.  I do need a vehicle. Might go electric 

It's not easy at the moment to know what to do is it?. 

I've recently been through the same conundrum, should I go petrol, diesel, electric ????

I ended up going hybrid.

Who says I'm indecisive ??

[Hairsy]

I went hybrid a few years ago and I love it. I can go months not using petrol and 'filling up' for free from solar. But I can also drive across France with one 10 minute fuel stop.

 

 

[bonio]

I hope to keep the car for going for another 5 years, perhaps more. With luck the situation will be clearer than it is now.

[RideWithStyles]

It’s a massive adjustment from ICE to electric, it’s not for everyone nor does it fit into a-lot people’s lifestyle without thought. If your one that does its quite good (quiet) and can be convenient with smugness of cheaper powered propulsion, how long that will last for is probably many yes off before it gets adjusted slightly.

Realistically it only works or makes sense IF you can charge it at home - get a charger fitted on your property, is an extra cost (£1000or more generally) and if your home setup (electrics and layout allows it if not that’s another outlay), then switch to a provider that has an EV tariff. Octopus and ovo do it.

Edited Thursday at 08:04 by RideWithStyles

[aide2001]

16 hours ago, Davidtav said:

Update on my situation with the car. I’ve cancelled the order. Not sure what to do now.  I do need a vehicle. Might go electric 

Seriously...electric ha ha, good luck

[Fender1515]

I will need to change my Honda CRV in the coming couple of year, its a diesel, 75k miles, never had any issues service costs around £250  per year, long trips I can get 60 MPG, so sets quite a high bar.

 

I am following the development of the Hydrogen collider vernicles ( I guess that's what you would call one that's been in a shunt,!) 

 hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicle (often abbreviated to FCEV) There are currently six hydrogen filling stations in the UK that are open to the public, so not running out of fuel would be a challenge. 

 

Strong money at present, Hyundai Nexo @ £60k, ouch, if, big if,  the number of refuelling points  increase, and manufacturing increases, I would expect that to drop to maybe £45k in a couple of years, crystal ball time. 

I am waiting for announcement from Kirklees Council to introduce Hydrogen charging points as part of the re-generation investment plan! 

But Never say Never 

I am guessing the Local Transport department will be flat out trying to come up with cunning plan to run an efficient train Network, not  something they have sussed out todate,,  mind, they have only had since the 1600's to figure it out, and I am sure they have been distracted by Moon Landings, Electricity,  Telephones in the interim. 

I read an article recently from Northern Rail, they use FAX messages to schedule drivers, so clearly things are moving forward at a pace. wonder what's happened to all the carrier pigeons!, 

[RideWithStyles]

Hydrogen (im still routing for as it would work for some) is a half way there but now it’s got other technology much more advanced to it makes it harder to do unless more manufacturers properly just on that band wagon.

the main problem (long term) isn’t the fueling as they can be used with/next to regular fuel stations now as the layout is similar just like LPG.
but it’s more of how less efficient they are (miles to the massive hp tank) isn’t great at the moment and there isn’t as much scope for advancement at the moment, id of seen it as primarily a urban and extra use case but not saying it couldn’t be used on the motorway but ud be filling up more often yet cheaper to fill up than ICE fuels each time.

Edited Thursday at 08:15 by RideWithStyles
Autoco

[Throttled]

The Versys is now with the dealers and I have a loan bike till I get the new one in two weeks time, unless a space frees up in their workshop. I have a Benelli TRK702 which is rather nice. It feels much more nimble and lighter than the big Versys, but obviously down on power and not as smooth. I see Benelli now do a larger engined version of the 502C cruiser, called the 752S. The Chinese owned brands are slowly getting bigger engines.

[Hairsy]

A friend of mine has had a 752S for a few months. He loves it. I haven't had a go yet but I hope to. Sitting on it convinces me that it's all about the fun.