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5 hours ago, Geoff Wilson said:

There is one “rule:

 

New riders are inexperienced and cause the most accidents. 
 

That's not true! 

Most accidents are from middle aged men who are born again bikers

Happy birthday

3 minutes ago, Geoff Wilson said:

There are some bikes that are “scary”. They’re literally missiles. There’s no messing about with some bikes and they can reach ridiculous speeds in a very short time. 
 

I’m not sure why you’re trying to downplay the speed of bikes like the R1, the ZX10-R, the CBR1000RR, GSXR1000, etc. 

How do you know they are scary? 

Have you ridden them? 

I have

13 hours ago, Geoff Wilson said:

 

There's nothing stopping someone who has passed his/her bike test from buying such a big and powerful bike, but some of the litre bikes are known as 'widow makers' for a reason! 

Now this really makes me piss!!  

There is no modern day sports bike classed as a "widow maker"  that term was used for the early TL1000s before it was recalled and a re tuned ECU fitted and a steering damper

The issue with that bike was not all about power! 

I know I owned one for 9 years! 

was it fast....yes 

was it scary......not really! 

Is there faster 600cc bikes! yes there is! 

So before referencing to "widow makers" learn about the bike and the power and why it was called a widow maker 

Other bikes was called this to make them sound scary thats all 

7 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

It's not a matter of who is right and who is wrong. It's just a case of ask 10 people the same question and you will get 10 different answers. If you're lucky one of the ten might be the same answer as your own. The other 9 are just as valid.

 

But if you ask enough people you eventually get the answer you want  

I have found this a lot! people are just trying to justify their purchase or not as the case maybe and they are just after the correct answers from other people 

1 hour ago, Pie man said:

I had an argument with a tree once. The tree won

Stubborn twats that won't budge!! 

46 minutes ago, Sand bags said:

 

i see, well they were probably just trying to make it sound like something specialist and essential. I wouldn't be surprised if they charged me for it without doing any "balancing" or work to it at all. After all, how would anyone know without watching them 

Its probably to scare you in to going to the dealer for servicing  

5 hours ago, Sand bags said:

 

essentially its just cleaning and checking spray patterns of the injectors/adjusting synchronisation. Its in the manual for more or less every service interval. Groups it together with checking idle speed....which i assume is the throttle body balance you are referring to.

I have never known a need to clean and check spray patterns unless there is a problem and that's a specialist job 

Adjusting synchronisation is just balancing the throttle bodies 

did you do the old restricted licence for 2 years? which meant you had to restrict a bike to 33bhp for 2 years? 

Having ridden a lot of those roads I can say that its a great route 

Makes me want to book a trip to Wales now! 

What the hell is an injector balance  

Do you mean throttle body balance? 

I'm confused as to the point of this thread 

Everyone who has answered saying its down to rider etc you are finding excuses as to justify not getting a 1000cc bike which is fine! Don't get one! 

These questions cannot be answered as it all depends on you! 

You might be a natural and pass both with just an hours training or you might need weeks of training 

You wont know until you start 

I would speak to the instructors on the day of your CBT and let them know of your intentions and ask what they recommend 

Trip to Chesterfield tomorrow to see Joel Dommett 

We went a few months ago but it was cancelled as he got covid! 

Welcome @Flies on the Visor

Did you fancy a change of scenery from twitter and facebook?  

1 hour ago, fastbob said:

That's not a lot of miles for an oil change . Is this some kind of Honda break in procedure ? 

All new bikes require a change at 1000km or 600 miles then it goes to around 10000km or 6000 miles after that 

@Pbassred can you not get out on it? 

2 minutes ago, Geoff Wilson said:

Except someone can pull the throttle back quite a bit on a 250cc bike from the 1980s and it will take a while to get to 100mph, but a GSXR1000 will reach 100mph in 2nd gear or something like that. The acceleration difference is going to be huge. What about when going out of a corner? On a smaller bike you can get away with giving it a bit of throttle a bit too early but on a litre bike the back end would bite you in the arse and you could quite easily come off your bike. 
 

What about when you first start riding your bike and tyres are cold? Can you still accelerate hard on a litre bike? 
 

Also, what about when braking hard? Superbikes are basically track bikes that are road legal, from what I have read the throttle and brakes are meant to be very sharp. So just like accelerating too hard and quickly could cause problems, braking too hard and quickly could cause problems. 
 

Surely someone with little experience getting a litre bike that is a superbike is running before he can even walk! Even modern-day 600cc road bikes are more than enough and can get someone into trouble very quickly. 

And thats the point! if you start riding like a dick it will bite you in the arse 

you can screw up on all sorts of bikes and power outputs 

You can lock up the brakes on all bikes and if you can't then there is something wrong with the brakes or it has very good ABS 

Running before you can walk is trying to ride beyond your abilities 

A 600cc is far better than new riders abilities but somehow everyone says they are the most suitable bike  

to me its irrelevant what bike you get as a first bike 

Be a dick and it will bite you in the arse  

The throttle works both ways and its just about learning and not running before you can walk 

yeah but all the accountants with too much money who think they are better than everyone will buy it

There is no need to involve your insurance company if you don't have to! 

I would deal direct with them making sure you get everything in writing 

or instruct a solicitor to act on your behalf 

1 minute ago, goat said:

Ah, that's your new job, ensuring the buses run late and bunch up so two arrive at once?

I do that already! Did you not know we purposefully do it to annoy everyone

2 hours ago, billy sugger said:

Baggage handler at a small airfield, or driving something around at one. That is a passenger disembarkation device in the pic

Neither 

And that is @Tiggie just gloating while he waits for his plane!

Hope its like these buses and bloody late

Nope

11 minutes ago, Tiggie said:

Still driving?

Nope! 

Last few days of driving buses then it's all change from next week

Start a new job within the same company on Monday!