Moonraker Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Hello Very kindly received advice about bleeding brakes recently and I finally got time to do it today but I have encountered a problem..... The front brakes have been done, not a problem but the pictures are of the rear .... that valve (nut thing) I'm meant to turn is not moving and I'm now just rounding off the edges.Any tool or tips that will help me move this back and forth as per the requirement? I'm sceptical about pliers!Thanks again!!!! Quote
Stu Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Stop!!! Think carefully about this as if its not moving then its more than likely seized and just trying anything may end up with a snapped bleed nipple (its name by the way) A snapped bleed nipple can be a nightmare to get out. I would first start by soaking it in some release agent of some sort over a few weeks and try a bit of heat before probably knocking a smaller old socket on it Quote
fastbob Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Before you go any further , order a new one preferably a good quality after market stainless steel version . You're almost certainty going to render this thing useless before it comes out . I would drench it in penetrating fluid overnight and then try applying some localised heat to it with a mini gas torch before trying to ease it out . A ring spanner isn't going to work so you can try re filing some flats on it or gripping it as firmly as you dare in a small Mole Grip . The trouble is these nipples are hollow and quite likely to snap clean off . If this happens then you would be best to take the calliper to an engineer to extract it . You can buy an Easyout set but personally I've never had a lot of luck with these . I did get a snapped one out once by having someone drip weld onto it to form a key . Not one to name drop but that someone was a young Andy Carlisle who has since gone on to greater things at the Nurburgring . Quote
fastbob Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 And order some bleed nipple covers as well ! Quote
Moonraker Posted February 3, 2019 Author Posted February 3, 2019 And order some bleed nipple covers as well ! I do have the cover, I had taken it off Quote
Moonraker Posted February 3, 2019 Author Posted February 3, 2019 Thank you [mention]Stu[/mention] and [mention]fastbob[/mention]. I'll soak it for a while and then give it another go!Have a friend who's a car mechanic, might be worth seeing if he has any tools laying around that might help! Quote
fastbob Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) And order some bleed nipple covers as well ! I do have the cover, I had taken it off Sorry, of course you would have done . Anyway here's the Bleed Nipple . https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/suzuki/sv_650_sk3/03/picture/bleed_nipple_-_rear_-_stainless_steel Edited February 3, 2019 by fastbob Quote
Moonraker Posted February 3, 2019 Author Posted February 3, 2019 And order some bleed nipple covers as well ! I do have the cover, I had taken it off Sorry, of course you would have done . Anyway here's the Bleed Nipple . https://www.wemoto.com/bikes/suzuki/sv_650_sk3/03/picture/bleed_nipple_-_front_-_stainless_steel With thanks, one and all Quote
oldgrump Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Hi [mention]markhibberd5[/mention] , check but I think the rear bleed nipple on the SV is M8 x 1.25, the link Fastbob sent was for the Front, which are smaller, I think they are M6 x 1. But check before ordering, I use my Local Motorcar discount store, they normally keep in stock and are a bit cheaper.And try using this stuff from Eurocarparts Normfest Super Crack Ultra 400mlProduct Code: NOR28944421 to get bolts out. Need to spray a lot but really does work. Quote
fastbob Posted February 3, 2019 Posted February 3, 2019 Hi @markhibberd5 , check but I think the rear bleed nipple on the SV is M8 x 1.25, the link Fastbob sent was for the Front, which are smaller, I think they are M6 x 1. But check before ordering, I use my Local Motorcar discount store, they normally keep in stock and are a bit cheaper. Well spotted sir , correction made. Quote
Moonraker Posted February 4, 2019 Author Posted February 4, 2019 if it goes tits up Nipple Therapy Thank you. I won't lie, when I first saw "Nipple Therapy" I thought of something else Quote
raesewell Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 If all of the above fails just hit it really hard with a big hammer, it wont fix it but it'll make you feel better Quote
mikestrivens Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 ^^^^^^Often called a Birmingham screwdriver Quote
JRH Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 if it goes tits up Nipple Therapy I looked at that when I broke a bleed nipple. Unfortunately was not suitable for my callipers as the new thread was too big for the material where the bleed nipple sits. So check carefully if you go this route. It is really designed for car callipers.I ended up getting a replacement callipers. Quote
Bender Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 ^^^^^^Often called a Birmingham screwdriver Council screwdriver up here, small amount of localised heat on the nipped and cool a couple of times, and I mean localised I use the kitchen blow touch which has tiny but hot flame, cold wet cloth around it, tap on slightly smaller hex socket, work in both directions until it moves or snaps, good luck.If it does snap, remove drill out to edge of threads and re tap, might be time to buy some new tools Quote
mikestrivens Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Or get a motorcycle mechanic to do it Quote
Bender Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Or get a motorcycle mechanic to do it Sometimes that's the easiest route Quote
Tango Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 Have a look around for a secondhand rear caliper.......could well be the cheapest option..... Quote
fastbob Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 And sometimes a cockney kiss No it isn't, a Cockney Kiss is a head butt. Quote
raesewell Posted February 4, 2019 Posted February 4, 2019 I know, just thought I would add some colour Quote
Stocky Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 And sometimes a cockney kiss No it isn't, a Cockney Kiss is a head butt. I thought a head butt was a Geordie Kiss Quote
mikestrivens Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 Or was it a Glasgow kiss. We seemed to have rather gone off track. Quote
fastbob Posted February 5, 2019 Posted February 5, 2019 And sometimes a cockney kiss No it isn't, a Cockney Kiss is a head butt. I thought a head butt was a Geordie Kiss Could be as well. Quote
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