I hate computers thread 😂

[Bender]

I've been doing an office for the wife, a room where my old tower pc was to be banished from, I was informed I was getting a laptop. 

 

I mainly only use email and word. 

 

What could go wrong it came with both office 365 and office as a separate stand alone thing, 365 they wanted you to upgrade to, ie pay etc. 

 

Stuck my word docs on and it didn't like them, could go into word and open them but i can't just double click to open them and there was no thumbnail to show them as a word doc, then fecking one drive decided everything should live on a cloud which I didn't want. 

 

Ended up having to do a full wipe and back to the out the box state, had to uninstall 365 and office and one drive and mcafee and one note and just about everything not needed. 

 

Paid for a std ver of office 21 and that solved the windows/word not recognising the word docs, what an absolute pain in the backside for what should have been straightforward. 

 

Office 21 dl came as an iso, my lappy dose not have an optical drive so I then had to dl a prog, (or an app as they call everything now) to make a virtual drive, which as it turns out I didn't need as Windows now supports virtual drives  

 

What should have taken 20mins dell and bill bstrd gates turned into 2 full evenings. 

 

Think I'm just getting too old to be bothered with this type of crap now  

[Gerontious]

This is why I haven't owned a PC since XP.

 

2011 to be precise.

[Bender]

27 minutes ago, Gerontious said:

This is why I haven't owned a PC since XP.

 

2011 to be precise.

I can stand apple ware less and they are not without issues, I've a friend who's house is apple rich and I've seen the hair pulling he's gone through when updates and compatability isn't what it's supposed to be. 

 

I've not had the old bsod for a long long time, win 7 was a huge improvement over everything before and some of the features built into win 11 are impressive its more the fact they can ship something with clear compatibility issues. Twats. 

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

I recently bought a new lapop from Currys. It was advertised as coming with a 12 month subscription to Office 365. 

 

Except it didn't. Four guys at Currys all agreed their advert said it did but it wasn't on the machine.

 

Currys head office wouldn't sort it out. I spent six hours in the store trying to resolve the problem. To be fair the guys in the store were great. But Currys head office were totally useless. 

 

I am looking forward to when I retire and I can set fire to it and never have to use one again.

[Gerontious]

47 minutes ago, Bender said:

I can stand apple ware less and they are not without issues, I've a friend who's house is apple rich and I've seen the hair pulling he's gone through when updates and compatability isn't what it's supposed to be. 

 

I've not had the old bsod for a long long time, win 7 was a huge improvement over everything before and some of the features built into win 11 are impressive its more the fact they can ship something with clear compatibility issues. Twats. 

 

Ive never had a problem. not one. Im currently using a Mac Mini. I had a MacBook Air for a year but sold it a few weeks ago to get me through this 'poor' month. Paid £900 sold it for £700. new owner is pleased as punch. When people have problems its generally because they either think they know better, or they download software from dodgy sources. and install unnecessary things like anti-virus. or malware like "Clean my Mac*.

 

I find comments like that endlessly entertaining. and problems with PCs even more so.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Gerontious

[Mickly]

Just discovered that my cheap & cheerful not very old lap top doesn’t have the requisite spec to upgrade to Win 11.

Also my I-phone 6S Plus is just about to be considered obsolete as the latest IOS will not be made available for it

[Bender]

56 minutes ago, Gerontious said:

 

Ive never had a problem. not one. Im currently using a Mac Mini. I had a MacBook Air for a year but sold it a few weeks ago to get me through this 'poor' month. Paid £900 sold it for £700. new owner is pleased as punch. When people have problems its generally because they either think they know better, or they download software from dodgy sources. and install unnecessary things like anti-virus. or malware like "Clean my Mac*.

 

I find comments like that endlessly entertaining. and problems with PCs even more so.

You and many others are fine, but not every one is, ust Google update issue with mac update os, big sur has carried over multiple issues, it's not the only ver to suffer, he's not one for dl anything  that doesn't have ane apple stamp of approval on it, he's also got server and multiple pc's he knows what he's doing but on more than one occasion the macs have been back to the genius desk who turn out not to be so genius  

 

 

 

[Bender]

1 hour ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

I recently bought a new lapop from Currys. It was advertised as coming with a 12 month subscription to Office 365. 

 

Except it didn't. Four guys at Currys all agreed their advert said it did but it wasn't on the machine.

 

Currys head office wouldn't sort it out. I spent six hours in the store trying to resolve the problem. To be fair the guys in the store were great. But Currys head office were totally useless. 

 

I am looking forward to when I retire and I can set fire to it and never have to use one again.

Do you need the subscription service, what apps as they say do you need. 

 

I paid £30 for office 21 as an outright purchase. 

[Gerontious]

9 hours ago, Bender said:

You and many others are fine, but not every one is, ust Google update issue with mac update os, big sur has carried over multiple issues, it's not the only ver to suffer, he's not one for dl anything  that doesn't have ane apple stamp of approval on it, he's also got server and multiple pc's he knows what he's doing but on more than one occasion the macs have been back to the genius desk who turn out not to be so genius  

 

 

 

It’s a very common thing that the people who bang on about how experienced they are always seem to have the most problems. I see this time and time again. There’s a reason for this I’m sure.

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

9 hours ago, Bender said:

Do you need the subscription service, what apps as they say do you need. 

 

I paid £30 for office 21 as an outright purchase. 

For compatibility across our team we've found that 365 works. When people use various bought packages we get too many issues.

 

The one person who won't play ball is the same one person who then complains they can't open emails or what they get is formatted wrong. Then, of course, it is everyone else's fault. 

[Bianco2564]

I don't like using other computers at work, the mouse has different settings so they either shoot off the screen or don't move fast enough.

Also people have different screen settings on our stock control software , why can't they set it up the same as mine?? Nothing is in the same place as you can customise the various screens.

 

I also hate using laptops with the silly finger pad thingy. Was in a meeting the other day and I had to edit from a word document from someone elses laptop that was displayed on a wall screen for all to see, I made a pigs ear out of trying to just do basic functions like highlighting and changing the font colour.

[S-Westerly]

Our work systems are completely locked to a standard set of settings. We can't amend anything ourselves and to be honest I don't mind. It means that whatever ship you go to you'll find the same setup and can access the same data the same way. In the old days it was total chaos.

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

43 minutes ago, S-Westerly said:

Our work systems are completely locked to a standard set of settings. We can't amend anything ourselves and to be honest I don't mind. It means that whatever ship you go to you'll find the same setup and can access the same data the same way. In the old days it was total chaos.

It was far simpler when it was all rope and canvas. 

[Bender]

2 hours ago, Gerontious said:

It’s a very common thing that the people who bang on about how experienced they are always seem to have the most problems. I see this time and time again. There’s a reason for this I’m sure.

Yup shit software usually followed by updates released before being ready. 

[Bender]

1 hour ago, S-Westerly said:

Our work systems are completely locked to a standard set of settings. We can't amend anything ourselves and to be honest I don't mind. It means that whatever ship you go to you'll find the same setup and can access the same data the same way. In the old days it was total chaos.

Makes sense and is probably much easier to lock down a fault should it occur. 

[cloughie24]

I have both Mac and PC at work. The software varies intensely thanks to the company being old school, PC is still running software made for terminals (some other PC's are running Libre Office ) whereas my Mac is up to date with Adobe design.

 

Windows 365 is far too advanced for here but I'd love the challenge of using it!

[S-Westerly]

One program we do have which I absolutely love is Adobe Pro. Makes job soooo much easier.

[S-Westerly]

7 hours ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

It was far simpler when it was all rope and canvas. 

Don't know about that. Just watched a YouTube video about the last of the Cape Horners. Now they had it hard and earned their coin (not that it was much).

[JRH]

My windows laptop decided it would update the OS overnight sometime ago. Then I went to use paint shop pro. Only use it very occasionally, I then I found it wouldn’t load. Googled the problem, my version won’t work with the new OS and no patch. Only solution is a new version of Paintshop. However it can not be bought you have to pay per month or per year to use it. Not worth it. So go find laptop with XP and the broken screen and old spare monitor and Getty presto work done. 
and OH keeps moaning I never throw anything away.

[Bender]

13 minutes ago, JRH said:

My windows laptop decided it would update the OS overnight sometime ago. Then I went to use paint shop pro. Only use it very occasionally, I then I found it wouldn’t load. Googled the problem, my version won’t work with the new OS and no patch. Only solution is a new version of Paintshop. However it can not be bought you have to pay per month or per year to use it. Not worth it. So go find laptop with XP and the broken screen and old spare monitor and Getty presto work done. 
and OH keeps moaning I never throw anything away.

What Windows ver was it running on 

[JRH]

41 minutes ago, Bender said:

What Windows ver was it running on 

Was compatible with ME but I used it on XP and everything since then including Win 8 and I believe the first version win 10 (which dumped my scanner and printer).

[Bender]

2 minutes ago, JRH said:

Was compatible with ME but I used it on XP and everything since then including Win 8 and I believe the first version win 10 (which dumped my scanner and printer).

You could set up a dual boot and install it on the last os it was working on, disable WiFi on that one or stop windows updating. 

 

[Mississippi Bullfrog]

5 hours ago, S-Westerly said:

Don't know about that. Just watched a YouTube video about the last of the Cape Horners. Now they had it hard and earned their coin (not that it was much).

Yes, but don't forget the prize money. You probably don't get it these days.

[S-Westerly]

29 minutes ago, Mississippi Bullfrog said:

Yes, but don't forget the prize money. You probably don't get it these days.

The Cape Horners got nowt but their pay. No prize money there in the 1920's.  Wouldn't have minded being the skipper on  tea clipper in the 1860's especially if you were first into the pool of London and had your 10% share. There's a reason a lot of large old town houses in seaports where built by successful skippers.

[JRH]

On 07/10/2022 at 20:23, Bender said:

You could set up a dual boot and install it on the last os it was working on, disable WiFi on that one or stop windows updating. 

 

 

It struggles to boot up now I think a dual boot system will kill it. It is about 6 or 7 years old.