Module 2 - members test experiences

[Guest]

Jeez. 9 minors. You must be feeling good now. Nice one. But don't forget those life savers.

[gbtcof]

Jeez. 9 minors. You must be feeling good now. Nice one. But don't forget those life savers.

 

Yes it was a lot but I wasn't riding well yesterday, 4 were for Balance slow control (wobbly on slow right turns), 2 for clearance obstructions (slightly too close to parked cars in empty residential streets, 2 for positioning (to far right on Dual Carriageway) and 1 for judgement meeting. I didn't get any for observation which is what I failed on last time. It was a different examiner (allegedly "harder") I think they probably make an overall judgement on Pass/Fail and what is dangerous or otherwise and if the minors don't add up to being unsafe or dangerous you can still pass.

[Guest]

As they say, 'the real learning starts now'.

Best of luck and keep your eyes on the road!

[klingelton]

As they say, 'the real learning starts now'.

Best of luck and keep your eyes on the road!

 

that's balls. you don't start your real learning until you get cocky (around 6 months after you pass) then you make a slew of silly errors and nearly kill yourself!

or have one of those rides where NOTHING goes right and you wonder at the end of it how you're still alive!

keep things shiny side up in the meantime and ride within your abilities! Trust the bike - the bike will be much better than you ever hope to be.

[MissBex]

Yay, Congrats gbtcof!

Don't worry bout 9 faults, a Pass is a Pass, the 'Test' word does funny things to people.

[gbtcof]

Yay, Congrats gbtcof!

Don't worry bout 9 faults, a Pass is a Pass, the 'Test' word does funny things to people.

 

Tnx MissBex, I think it was the words Second Test that did it for me, I was nervous this time but I wasn't on the first one !

Now to get some gear and a bike !

[MissBex]

Tnx MissBex, I think it was the words Second Test that did it for me, I was nervous this time but I wasn't on the first one !

Now to get some gear and a bike !

 

That was the same for me too, fine on the first attempt but a lot more nervous 2nd time.

I've got the gear, although helmet, gloves and jacket need replacing really from years being pillion. Just gotta save for the bike. Seen sooo many out today in the nice weather too, makes you want one even more! But got about another 2 paydays before I can afford anything.

[Gray]

Had my Mod2 this morning at Atherton and I passed with 6 minors the ERN 650cc

Can't believe it. It all feels surreal. Since passing my CBT last October with never having sat on a motorbike before to be where I am now with a full unrestricted license is just weird. Felt really good on the ride home from the riding school on my CBF 125. When I got home I put the L-plates in the bin.

Not in a rush yet though to buy a bigger bike. I quite enjoy my 125 for now so will continue saving as have my eye on a new Ninja 300 SE.

Thanks to all on these forums as I have spent a lot of time reading previous threads regarding advice and experiences etc and it has helped me no end.

[gbtcof]

Had my Mod2 this morning at Atherton and I passed with 6 minors.

 

 

Well done its a nice feeling isn't it. Best bit for me was riding back to training school after the test without having a radio so I couldn't hear my instructor nagging me

[klingelton]

Had my Mod2 this morning at Atherton and I passed with 6 minors.

 

 

Well done its a nice feeling isn't it. Best bit for me was riding back to training school after the test without having a radio so I couldn't hear my instructor nagging me

 

my instructor did the same thing. another chap who took his test on the same day lead the way though as i didn't know the way. still - utterly brilliant feeling.

well done!

[number1barber]

Im in a slightly different boat to alot of you people on here and im not liking the test one bit.

I have driven 125cc scooters for years.

I then decided I wanted to carry passengers and so I took my trusty scooter to a mod 1 and failed on shoulder checks as I was rushing a bit. I then took a weeks training £700 took it on a 600 and failed putting my foot down coming out of the figure 8 I then went and brought a 125cc varadero and took it again and passed.

At this point I notice that my theory is expiring soon and the mod 1 only lasts as long as the theory so I have two months to get it done. I fitted beepers to my indicators. £5 on fleabay

I take the bike to Erith centre for mod 2

I fail badly with 3 majors.

1. first roundabout im in the left lane get to the front and its fixed to left only but I want straight on I know better I should have gone left but go straight on instead.

2. turning sharp left onto a hill from traffic lights mess up the gears swipe my foot down and get major for balance

3. the last road opens up big and I take it upto 40mph but get a message to slow down.

when I get back he says he doesn't get why a lot of people think its 40mph

I take it back last week and get another guy

we go out im relaxed and calm I pass the roundabouts no problems but a little later on I exit a large roundabout and as I do so I left shoulder check and the car in front stops to turn right I then have to swerve to avoid it

later in the test im meant to continue forward at all times unless told otherwise. I come to a fork and slow down constantly trying to see which way is straight on I go to the right but despite looking many times both ways I don't think I had turned my head to look as I was facing both roads head on the right road turned out to not be straight on but a side road.

I now have to rebook again but its my last chance as then my theory expires along with my mod 1 and cbt and I have to start over. I have no idea why the theory and mod 1 expire. money delayed continuing after the theory

for me its becoming a nightmare. I need a licence to carry a passenger yet you are not tested in any way to show you can do so so what's the point?. when I fail its because im not capable apparently yet I can then get back on the same bike and carry on riding? When guys who have never driven before do a weeks course and pass its because they have trained to pass the test not because they can ride they are then giving rockets and told do as you like. I see them every day racing around in traffic while I take my time and enjoy the ride. everyone makes serious faults when riding its how we deal with them that defines us as bikers. nobody rides 100% every day but that's what you are meant to do on your test.

if you ride well and confident yet make a mistake I think a fail is unfair.

ABOUT ERITH CENTRE

generally the whole surrounding area is 30 everywhere unless clearly marked. if in doubt mirror check as the examiner wont speed so if he starts falling back slow down

at the first big roundabout left lane is left only

If you get to a fork and cant see which way is straight I don't know what you should do? indicate left look right maybe?

if you get taken down a 1 way that opens into 2 lanes stay in the left as its now a 2 way rd but you missed the signs

if you get the skinny examiner with the beard who is very friendly then keep a nice distance from the car in front when stopping as he will mark you down for it when the other guys wont

I commute in rush hour and ride a lot I have never had an accident in 10 years of riding. I don't race around I buy good gear to keep me warm or cool so im not distracted and I take my time. If im late im late racing to work when late may result in a slight case of death and permanent lateness. if I fail again im out of time and have to spend £130 just to get back to this point.

thus far

cbt £90

theory £30

3x mod 1 £45

2x mod 2 £150

= £315 + intensive = £1015

if I fail again it will be

cbt theory and mod 1 & 2 = £205 + already spent.

grand total £1220

they have you by the balls because if you want to do a big bike there is no way to practice without a expensive training school

Mod 1 with practice is easy as there are no variables whereas mod 2 is not. people that are knew to riding who have passed first go have been very lucky

[MissBex]

I can understand how you must be feeling, especially since you already have years of riding experience. From what you've written it seems the main reasons for your fails is just really because you don't know the roads well/at all - something that is easily fixed so don't beat yourself up too much about it. You know you can do it!

What made you decide to go back to doing it on a 125 after failing on the 600? I'm guessing the costs?

I had no previous experience riding, but did my Direct Access on a 600 straight away as I'm 25 and wanted to get it all out the way with. I too felt the sting in the pocket. Here's mine:

Theory - £31

6 Day Course - £699 (CBT, 3 days training, Mod 1 (Fail 1), Mod 2)

Extra day's Training - £110

Mod 1 (Fail 2) - £125.50

Mod 1 (Fail 3) - £125.50

Mod 1 (Pass) - £125.50

Mod 2 (Fail 1) - Already paid for within course

Mod 2 (Pass) - £185

Grand Total for Licence = £1401.50

All worth it in the end now it's done and dusted.

At least you get it cheaper as you are doing it on your own bike, but they must make a killing out of us lot. It's just too expensive.

I've got a colourful congratulations waiting for you

[gbtcof]

they have you by the balls because if you want to do a big bike there is no way to practice without a expensive training school

Mod 1 with practice is easy as there are no variables whereas mod 2 is not. people that are knew to riding who have passed first go have been very lucky

 

I feel for you but .... unfortunately you have to jump through these hoops to get a full unrestricted licence and there is no other way.

Young MissBex (25) and old me (55) both had some failures along the way but we got there in the end, try and relax you can do it. I will be waiting to add my non colourful congratulations to MissBex's

[Abraxix92]

Passed today, 4 minors, thought i did well personally, but once the exaiminer at halifax started telling me if i continue to ride like i was i'll be dead, diden't understand where he was coming from as i only messed up on a tight bend by misjudgment of the bike, although i kept it in my lane....

if i was that bad and will be dead, how the hell did i pass, was pretty unset after that, but picked the bike up and cheered up living my last days before i die apparently...

[staningrimsby]

Congratulations mate a pass is a pass no go out and enjoy hoping this time next month I will have passed both of mine as well

[gbtcof]

Passed today, 4 minors, thought i did well personally, but once the exaiminer at halifax started telling me if i continue to ride like i was i'll be dead, diden't understand where he was coming from as i only messed up on a tight bend by misjudgment of the bike, although i kept it in my lane....

if i was that bad and will be dead, how the hell did i pass, was pretty unset after that, but picked the bike up and cheered up living my last days before i die apparently...

 

Well done on your pass.

Your examiner sounds as though he is a bit lacking in social skills!

However I think he was probably trying to say that passing doesn't mean you don't need to continue to improve and become more proficient and learn how to be safe. As a very new biker myself I know that I feel much more of a beginner on my motorbike than I did when I passed my car test many years ago. Its clear to me that I need to gain experience but I will also do some advanced training to learn how to protect myself and be as safe as possible.

Don't let it worry you , you have met the required standard and now you can start to really learn how to ride, and have some fun.

[Abraxix92]

Passed today, 4 minors, thought i did well personally, but once the exaiminer at halifax started telling me if i continue to ride like i was i'll be dead, diden't understand where he was coming from as i only messed up on a tight bend by misjudgment of the bike, although i kept it in my lane....

if i was that bad and will be dead, how the hell did i pass, was pretty unset after that, but picked the bike up and cheered up living my last days before i die apparently...

 

Well done on your pass.

Your examiner sounds as though he is a bit lacking in social skills!

However I think he was probably trying to say that passing doesn't mean you don't need to continue to improve and become more proficient and learn how to be safe. As a very new biker myself I know that I feel much more of a beginner on my motorbike than I did when I passed my car test many years ago. Its clear to me that I need to gain experience but I will also do some advanced training to learn how to protect myself and be as safe as possible.

Don't let it worry you , you have met the required standard and now you can start to really learn how to ride, and have some fun.

 

Yes, i guess you're right, i diden't write a whole story because how he put it really put me on a downer, and my instructor was not too inpressed, i had no lessons on a big bike, but have ridden a 125 for a year, i basically misjudged the corner because of the weight of the bigger bike, well that's what i personally put it down to, i've gone around that very tight bend again on the new bike and got it good now.

It's alright him saying that, but you don't really start learning till you're on your new bike, 125 to a 650 is different for me, as i'm pretty slim and the weight difference caught me off guard

[number1barber]

I can understand how you must be feeling, especially since you already have years of riding experience. From what you've written it seems the main reasons for your fails is just really because you don't know the roads well/at all - something that is easily fixed so don't beat yourself up too much about it. You know you can do it!

What made you decide to go back to doing it on a 125 after failing on the 600? I'm guessing the costs?

 

It was the cost and also the school was a tad disinterested so I found gears hell to start with. I thought restarting on a geared 125 big bike would be way more beneficial for practice and to work on it is a lot easier plus you can bump it.

My dad has a yard so I can learn a big bike and he can run me to the test but the scooter needed a new mot so I thought it was time to loose the scooter and get something to practice on

once I got the varadero I decided just to pass on that first so I can do trips over to Europe and take my son on the bike.

In a year I will probably retake on a vfr750.

im calm and without nerves I ride in rush hour traffic daily and when guys pass after never rode a bike before except for a weeks intensive I think yes they were lucky and no they may not be ready to jump on a really big bike but that's the way it goes.

the shock on a big bike is how easy the rear brake can lock the wheel and drop the bike. I have not dropped it but I know not to grab it in the wet now. stopping distance is nothing but stopping a vfr from 50 suddenly correctly could suck to say the least.

I find roundabouts have always been confusing

left lane = left or straight on sometimes left only

middle straight on so stay in lane and go straight

right round to the right

where I always get confused is at Lewisham you stay in the right lane go round and exit the third exit straight into the right lane.

on a bigger roundabout like Erith as you exit there are two exit lanes I would think if you are sticking to the centre you would exit into the right lane and the people from the previous exit would exit into the left however if the people from the previous were going straight on I would be cutting across them.

so if the roundabout has three lanes and you enter in the right lane to take the third exit at which point would you move across before exiting as staying in the right lane and exiting in the right would cut off anyone going straight on?

told you it was confusing. have the mod rebooked for Wednesday. will slow it down a bit especially at roundabouts

either that or just go left at every one as I assume you cant fail for that.

Im going away next weekend and meeting my gf there. the place is remote so we have to call it a for her to be able to get the train home. it would be great to finally be able to give her a ride but we shall see

[number1barber]

Passed today, 4 minors, thought i did well personally, but once the exaiminer at halifax started telling me if i continue to ride like i was i'll be dead, diden't understand where he was coming from as i only messed up on a tight bend by misjudgment of the bike, although i kept it in my lane....

if i was that bad and will be dead, how the hell did i pass, was pretty unset after that, but picked the bike up and cheered up living my last days before i die apparently...

 

a very well done. if you was a bad rider or screwed up you would have failed im guessing that as you made the corner he had to pass you but he probably saw it as possibly you nearly didn't make the corner.

anyway just take it easy and get used to it. im really happy I have a 190kg 125 as it teaches me to respect the weight before I get more power. you will be fine. to quote my awesome quote. we all make mistakes its how we deal with them that defines us as riders

[MissBex]

Passed today, 4 minors...

 

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What an awful thing for the examiner to say afterwards. Maybe he was annoyed because he wanted to fail you but didn't have enough reason to do so. hehe All that matters is that you got the Pass! Well done.

[Abraxix92]

Passed today, 4 minors...

 

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What an awful thing for the examiner to say afterwards. Maybe he was annoyed because he wanted to fail you but didn't have enough reason to do so. hehe All that matters is that you got the Pass! Well done.

 

Cheers, you don't learn until you ride though!

[MissBex]

I find roundabouts have always been confusing

left lane = left or straight on sometimes left only

middle straight on so stay in lane and go straight

right round to the right

so if the roundabout has three lanes and you enter in the right lane to take the third exit at which point would you move across before exiting as staying in the right lane and exiting in the right would cut off anyone going straight on?

 

Some roundabout can be tricky but generally on a 2 lane roundabout with 3 or more exits it usually left = Left & Straight over and right for any exits passed the straight on exit, unless the road markings indicate otherwise. (e.g. Left with a left only arrow)

For 3+ lane roundabout usually you make your way to the left hand lane before the exit you need to take if going right. I find it annoying on busy roundabouts because sometimes there is just no room to change lanes without pushing in. It's easier on traffic lighted roundabouts.

Here is an example of a roundabout that I used to get to my training school and which was also included as part of the route on the test. It is traffic lighted.

http://i1114.photobucket.com/albums/k53 ... 36e28a.jpg

This is how my instructor told me to do this roundabout following the Green line. The red dot is where I enter the roundabout from - 3rd lane with a 'Right' Arrow on it. After the 2nd exit (Straight on) you indicate across to the middle lane and then again into the left where you exit off on the left side of a 2 lane exit.

If you didnt have time/space/forgot to move across to the left hand lane before the exit, you can follow the Yellow line (Middle lane) and exit off on the right hand side.

..This is however how I do it when I'm driving around not on a lesson or test.. so much easier! lol

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Enter roundabout in middle lane (Straight on & Left arrow). stay on the left side where it goes into 2 lanes just after, then with no cars to worry about on you left side, indicate over after the 2nd exit (Straight on) into the left hand lane again when it goes back into 3 lanes and exit on the left hand side as normal at the exit.

After I failed my first attempt I traced my route on google maps and had a good look at road markings, speed limits etc.. Even though I was taken a different route the 2nd time, the first part of it was all the same, so at least I was pretty confident on that part

Best of Luck for Wednesday!

[number1barber]

made sure i took all 4 parts cbt, theory, mod 1, driving license.

I arrive early so i can relax and get my game face on.

i hand him all my paperwork and he ask me for the counter part of my license as its not with the rest.

my face drops and i tell him it is still indoors. Short of begging i ask to take my test because ten days before he has seen it and ten days before that the other instructor has seen it. he says it doesn't matter. Thats it i just lost £175.

Im away this weekend and my cbt expires next thursday.

If somehow I get a last minute booking i will still have to take a day off so it will again cost me £175 if i dont get one in time i have to pay another £100 for a cbt which i love doing after driving for 10 years

im just burning money 24/7 im spending a fortune to get a license for a bike im already allowed to drive just to carry a passenger despite not being tested for it.

On a side note whilst i was waiting another guy failed for the one way street that turns into a two way street thats the 3rd time i have heard someone fail for that there. I think taking new riders to bits where lots of new and qualified riders all screw up is seriously wrong.

the dvla said the examiner can confirm my license on the phone however the examiner said that's not the case. im in such a happy mood.

my dad suggests doing the cbt and taking a drive to test on a big bike which will cost £200 but the problem being that if i do so and fail mod 1 i will instantly lose mod 2 again.

You can be a good rider but if you don't drive the way they want to see it doesn't matter

I would love to pass a big test and get a 600 and offer free help to learners just so they don't have to pay a fortune too. who knows maybe in the future.

tests suck

[MissBex]

Oh No! That seriously sucks big time!! I do feel really sorry for you, I know I would have been absolutely devastated. I think it's absolutely disgusting that you lose all that money because you made a small error and forgot it. You'd think they'd have some way around it, as you say like phoning up dvla or if you was able to get home and back within a short amount of time they may still be able to fit you in or at least reschedule the test for another daye without taking the fee.

I actually almost had a similar experience on my 3rd mod 1 attempt. It was a really hot day and I hadn't taken the thermal liner out of my jacket. After some practicing maneuvers at the training school I decided I was way too hot and took the liner out before setting off to the test centre. The other guy on his mod 1 decided to do the same.

Got to the test centre and sat down for a while. We had about half an hour before my go. I thought I'd get my documents out ready on the table so I wasn't faffing about unfolding them etc.. when it was my turn. Got all the paper parts out of my pocket, took them out of the plastic sandwich bag I'd folded them up into in case it rained.... but wait... where's the card part?? Oh Yes! I remember. I put it in my inner pocket of my coat. Reached in and felt around the pocket... hmm not there... Wait..... waaaaiit.... OMG!!! I'd put it in the liner pocket which was back at the training school!! Heart started to thud so hard in panic. I told my instructor - who had just bought himself a nice hot cup of coffee - he put the coffee down and said he'd go back and get it as quick as he could. The ride usually takes about 20 mins there, but he managed to get there and back in that time! His coffee was still warm too I was sooooo thankful and sooo relieved.

It is so easily done, especially when you mind is set on thinking about the tests.

I think it would be good if you managed to get the tests done on a big bike as it saves you the hassle of having to do it again in future. With my fails and extra lesson etc.. I felt the same way about it just eating your money. I would have been able to afford a bike by now if I hadn't had to spend so much on the tests & lessons, but It's all going to be worth the saving when I get one in the end.

As far as I'm aware you have to wait a minimum of 10 days before you can retake the Module 2 test, but thats if you fail. As you didn't even get to do the test I'm guessing you can redo it whenever they have a space? So could be possible to get it in before next Thurs.. but if your test centre is anything like peterborough's then they are usually booked up for at least 2-3 weeks if not more. I hope you get lucky with a cancellation.

[tuktuk]

Took mine today at Gateshead. Examiner was a really nice lady who was very friendly and helped me relax alot. We arrived on the minute my test was booked for as there was a smash on the a1 and my instructor took the lead and filtered through the piled up traffic so i was a bit panicked haha.

Managed to pass with 0 minors! Dad is totally jelous as it took him 4 attempts haha.

Massive thanks to the Art of Motorcycling in Newcastle for getting me through it. Would highly recommend them