Scientific equipment suppliers & manufacturers are pure piss takers... [story] I used to work for a large pharma company and we had a few bits of kit from a supplier (>£1m each). These instruments used bespoke consumables which were around £300 a pop - we used 30 a day. 30 a day. Because we were a big company, published papers showcasing their equipment and spent an outrageous amount of money with them, they gave us a "special" price on the consumables, apparently 25% discount. Now, when the site closed a few of us looked at buying the equipment from our employer and setting up a spin off. Over an "executive lunch" with their head honcho, the subject if consumable pricing came up as it would be out main expenditure. I asked if we could get the same price - he said he could do better no problem. He let slip that before they gave the 25% discount, they inflated the price by the same amount - simply because that's what they knew they could get away with. [/story] That my friend is why they are fuzzy about pricing.