Help me buy a Suit

[Samy]

I am new in UK and I am looking to buy a 1 pc leather riding suit ( 52/54 ). Preferably, from alpinestars or Dainese. Budget upto 600 GBP but won't mind saving some money and buy some other gear. I want one with excellent perforation because I'll be wearing it in India ( Hot Weather )

I had set my eyes on the Alpinestars orbiter in Red/White http://images1.revzilla.com/product_images/0079/3046/alpinestars_suit_orbiter_zoom.jpg

because of low cost, and excellent perforation. I am not able to locate it any where in UK online.

Please help me locate it either online or in store.

[Stu]

Dont do it!!

you are just paying for the name! there is plenty out there cheaper and better quality!

Also I would go for two piece as when you stop you can then whip the jacket off if its hot

[Six30]

Though they only rode mopeds or tuk Tuks in India , you'd look a bit silly in full leathers.

[Samy]

Dont do it!!

you are just paying for the name! there is plenty out there cheaper and better quality!

Also I would go for two piece as when you stop you can then whip the jacket off if its hot

 

I actually want to avoid that itch to take off the jacket. After my last crash, I try to go ATGATT.

Regarding suit, Please suggest other options.

[Stu]

when I say take off your jacket I mean when you stop

I have RST and have no problems with them

I have also crashed at high speed in RST hence why I bought another set

[bonio]

hi Samy,

The guys a right, you should look around and check out the quality and prices of other suits too.

If it's that one you want, though, you're going to have to search a bit, as it's now discontinued (https://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/buy/Alpinestars-Orbiter-Suit/15892.htm)

J&S - they're a reputable company with a few stores in the UK and reliable online shop - have 1 2-piece and a couple of 1-piece in stock, but not in white (https://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/pages/home/advanced-search.htm?search=orbiter&is_posted=yes&submit.x=0&submit.y=0#tabs|Search:products)

FC Moto (a pretty reliable German online store who do free delivery I think to the UK) have 1 and 2 piece suits in, but again not in white (http://www.fc-moto.de/epages/fcm.sf/en_GB/?ObjectID=2587584&ViewAction=FacetedSearchProducts&SearchString=orbiter+suit)

There are also a couple on ebay, but again not in white.

[fullscreenaging]

Have a look here http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

They have loads of brands to choose from. They are based just outside Boston if you're close enough for a visit. If not they do a free returns service so if anything doesn't fit you can send it back for a different size. There is always someone on the end of a phone to help you out with any question.

I've used these guys a good few times online and in shop and their customer service is spot on

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[tuktuk]

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Saved a fair few quid when i ordered mine.

[TC1474]

Dont do it!!

you are just paying for the name! there is plenty out there cheaper and better quality!

Also I would go for two piece as when you stop you can then whip the jacket off if its hot

 

Additionally on the road it is a safer option.

[Stu]

you have mentioned this before but please jog my memory!

I am getting forgetful in old age

[Joeman]

i had to put my helmet on to take a pee at the services today... there was nowhere dry/hygienic to put it down, so i wore it!

now imagine taking a dump in a one piece leather suit with the upper part gathered round your ankles on the pee soaked floor.......

[Joe85]

i had to put my helmet on to take a pee at the services today... there was nowhere dry/hygienic to put it down, so i wore it!

now imagine taking a dump in a one piece leather suit with the upper part gathered round your ankles on the pee soaked floor.......

 

Haha.

Maybe you found a niche: A one piece with an arse zip.

[TC1474]

you have mentioned this before but please jog my memory!

I am getting forgetful in old age

 

I have about 10,000 case studies of crashes, but just relating to how the clothing behaved in a crash ranging from the catastrophic and fatal worst case scenario to minor cuts and grazes caused by a slow speed off. You have to bear in mind that no 2 crashes are the same, and if it is that serious, no matter what you have on, it will not stop you being killed or seriously injured, in the same way as buying an expensive crash helmet will not prevent you from suffering a broken neck, which is what most riders die of (apart from multiple internal catastrophic injuries)

1 piece suits are designed for use on the track where everyone travels in the same direction, with nice large run off areas and, importantly, none of the road side furniture that you get on your average A class road. In the event of an accident on the track, medical help is usually with the fallen rider before they have stopped sliding, and everything is contained within a tightly controlled environment. On the road however we are not afforded that luxury. In the event of a serious crash we could be waiting for a considerable time before medical help arrives.

This is where the main issue arises between wearing a 2 piece and 1 piece. A well fitting leather (and this can apply equally to jacket and trouser combination) will, in the event of serious injury, act as a splint for broken bones and, in some cases, reduce blood loss. With a 2 piece, if the rider is suffering from lower body injuries the trousers can be removed quite easily allowing medical personnel quick and easy access to the injury and minimizing the amount of discomfort suffered by the rider. If there is a combination of lower and upper body injuries and it is obvious that, for example, the rider has broken his collar bone, then the jacket can be left alone as it will be supportive leaving the paramedics to concentrate on the area most in need of attention.

Put the rider into the same scenario but this time wearing a 1 piece. The leathers will not be able to be easily removed without great discomfort or the risk of further injury to the rider. Although the paramedics may be able to eventually cut through the leather to gain access to the injured part of the body, this will be time consuming and, in the golden hour, could prove to be critical.

Then there is the issue of practicality. How many times have you been to an event on a hot or even just a warm day, and seen riders walking about with their 1 piece race suits tied in a knot by the arms around their waists, while those who choose to stay covered up tend to look like they are carrying a couple of kilos in their underpants? This is due to the different stress panels on a 1 piece compared to a 2 piece since the 1 piece is designed for the racing/sports bike crouch. 2 piece leathers actually keeps their shape better for longer, not to mention the fact that when you are off the bike you can remove your jacket and remain more comfortable.

The issue of 1 piece versus 2 piece leathers has kicked off many lengthy discussions during presentations I have made to motorcycling clubs up and down the country, and I could take up another two or three pages going into the pro’s and cons of the two styles, but the last point I will make is that a 1 piece is designed for the racing crouch. How many riders have you seen walking around in their race replica suits who look ike they are in desperate need for a poo? 2 piece suits keep their shape better because of the way they are designed.

I see more serious inuries caused to riders in 1 piece suits where the suit has been contributory than I ever do with those in a two piece of jacket/trouser combo.

The choice is down to the individual at the end of the day, but hopefully I have given you a bit of food for thought and prevented you from becoming brain washed into believing that if it is used on track it must offer the utimate protection on the road.

[Valko]

you need to try the fit, go to J&S New Malden shop and try few models, they stock A*.

Having said that better option is to go to Harper's, they do custom fit and produce high quality UK made leathers:

http://www.harpers.eu/cat13_1.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;