Sir Stanley Hubris Posted September 15, 2019 Posted September 15, 2019 For those of you that stay overnight in hotels etc - what do you use to secure your bike and prevent it being pinched? I guess secure bike storage is the best but in its absence do you rely on a secluded spot (round the back perhaps) plus a disc lock or chain or is there a better option? (Obviously first choice is a ground floor disabled room as they tend to have wider doors so you can just wheel your bike in!) Quote
geofferz Posted September 15, 2019 Posted September 15, 2019 Chain ideally to something solid like a lamppost, but failing which just around the wheel so it's essentially a large disk lock (only way heavier to carry!) Though you can chain it to your mates bike, or any random's chained wheel. Quote
Throttled Posted September 15, 2019 Posted September 15, 2019 I would stay anywhere I was going to be worried about my bike. Quote
Arwen Posted September 15, 2019 Posted September 15, 2019 I've never done it. But chain it to something (light post) as close to the front door of the hotel as possible. Hotel front doors usually have cameras… Secluded bits of car park normally do not. Quote
manxie49 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Chain around the rear wheel, usually to a mates bike or something immovable and an abus disc lock on the front, I put a cover over the bike as well "out of sight out of mind", I park it somewhere well lit or if wherever I'm staying has cameras I park it where it can be seen by those. Theres only so much you can do and if some scum bag wants it they will get it, its just a case of not making it an easy target for them. Quote
dynax Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I would go with a cover as well as chains and disc locks as above, if they can't see what bike it is i would think less likely to try and tamper, but then again curiosity is human nature and might attract more attention in people trying to peek under the cover like some upskirting perv Quote
Marino Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 you need ugly bike that no one want it Quote
Gerontious Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I would look at the hotel first on streetview and then base my next move on that. I would prefer to stay somewhere that the bike can either be stored in a secure garage or worst case, out of sight of passing traffic. Often times its easy to just ask the reception staff where people (or staff) park their bikes. Quote
geofferz Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I would go with a cover as well as chains and disc locks as above, if they can't see what bike it is i would think less likely to try and tamper, but then again curiosity is human nature and might attract more attention in people trying to peek under the cover like some upskirting perv I saw a docu on tele not that long ago with a bike thief candidly telling people how to protect their bikes! Nice of him. He said a cover was the number 1 deterrent for him as it takes too long to see what's under. So, from the horse's mouth... Quote
dynax Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I would also fit an alarm, one thing about thieves is they don't like being noticed, so any noise that can bring unwanted attention in their direction has to be a good deterrent Quote
manxie49 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I would look at the hotel first on streetview and then base my next move on that. I would prefer to stay somewhere that the bike can either be stored in a secure garage or worst case, out of sight of passing traffic. Often times its easy to just ask the reception staff where people (or staff) park their bikes. Thats a good point about asking hotel staff, I asked the staff at the Holiday Inn Express in Lancaster and they let me park my bike right at the reception door, reception staff were really helpful, said they could see it and would keep an eye on it. Quote
manxie49 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I would also fit an alarm, one thing about thieves is they don't like being noticed, so any noise that can bring unwanted attention in their direction has to be a good deterrent Alarm is a really good idea, the problem is when I had one I was plagued by false alarms in windy conditions. Now this may sound naff but it actually works a treat, I bought a personal attack alarm pictured below for £4 of fleabay, I have a piece of monofilament line one end attached via a small clip to the bike the other to the alarm, alarm is hidden discretely nearby, someone moves the bike and it pulls the pin sending out 143Db siren, you can be as poetic as room permits when it comes to hiding the siren, I don't get any false alarms and because the monofilament is so thin it can't be seen unless you really look hard, especially at night when the majority of thieving scum go about their business.[attachment=0]s-l1600.jpg[/attachment] Quote
Fleck Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 There is very often a secure yard round the back at the kitchen door entrance with the wheelie bins and condenser units in. I'd ring and ask if I could put it in there Quote
dynax Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 I would also fit an alarm, one thing about thieves is they don't like being noticed, so any noise that can bring unwanted attention in their direction has to be a good deterrent Alarm is a really good idea, the problem is when I had one I was plagued by false alarms in windy conditions. Now this may sound naff but it actually works a treat, I bought a personal attack alarm pictured below for £4 of fleabay, I have a piece of monofilament line one end attached via a small clip to the bike the other to the alarm, alarm is hidden discretely nearby, someone moves the bike and it pulls the pin sending out 143Db siren, you can be as poetic as room permits when it comes to hiding the siren, I don't get any false alarms and because the monofilament is so thin it can't be seen unless you really look hard, especially at night when the majority of thieving scum go about their business.s-l1600.jpg The one i have talks and warns you the bike as an alarm then bleeps a few times, if it is moved again within a few seconds the alarm goes off and by heck it makes a racket 120db's worth Quote
raesewell Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Nobody pays attention to alarms, there are numerous YouTube videos of bikes alarm screaming while the bike is loaded into the back of a van and people walking past taking not a blind bit of notice. A big f#*k off lock deters some, but if they want your bike ain't nuffin gonna stop em. Stop worrying and enjoy the riding. Quote
manxie49 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Not tried one of these myself but a medic who stayed with us during this years TT had one on his bike, doesn't stop the bike being nicked but potentially helps find it if it is, I think it also sends you a text message if the bike is moved? I looked at it when he was here and it seemed to be pretty effective with no annual subscription charge.https://monimoto.co.uk/?_ga=2.130907466.41762124.1568632652-1462968911.1568632652 Quote
manxie49 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Nobody pays attention to alarms, there are numerous YouTube videos of bikes alarm screaming while the bike is loaded into the back of a van and people walking past taking not a blind bit of notice. A big f#*k off lock deters some, but if they want your bike ain't nuffin gonna stop em. Stop worrying and enjoy the riding. Yes I agree somewhat with what you're saying here, I think the whole ethos though is to make it less attractive, if its parked sensibly, has good security measures in place then the light fingered scum are more inclined to move on to what they see as an easier target. I enjoy the riding but I also like to think my bike is going to still be there when I get up in the morning and whilst most people will ignore alarms, if I'm in the hotel and hear my alarm go off I'll be straight up to see what's going on. Doing something to improve the security of your bike can't be a bad thing IMHO and you are right, a big F--k off chain attached to an immovable object is definitely the best way to go. Quote
geofferz Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Not tried one of these myself but a medic who stayed with us during this years TT had one on his bike, doesn't stop the bike being nicked but potentially helps find it if it is, I think it also sends you a text message if the bike is moved? I looked at it when he was here and it seemed to be pretty effective with no annual subscription charge.https://monimoto.co.uk/?_ga=2.130907466.41762124.1568632652-1462968911.1568632652 £36 annual subscription Quote
Guest Richzx6r Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Where do you think I'd stand with a set of flame throwers in a nicely concealed location that is linked to a tilt sensor so when the scum try and wheel it away the get fried Quote
manxie49 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Where do you think I'd stand with a set of flame throwers in a nicely concealed location that is linked to a tilt sensor so when the scum try and wheel it away the get fried I like your thinking .... Develop one and retire a happy man on the proceeds Quote
manxie49 Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Not tried one of these myself but a medic who stayed with us during this years TT had one on his bike, doesn't stop the bike being nicked but potentially helps find it if it is, I think it also sends you a text message if the bike is moved? I looked at it when he was here and it seemed to be pretty effective with no annual subscription charge.https://monimoto.co.uk/?_ga=2.130907466.41762124.1568632652-1462968911.1568632652 £36 annual subscription Just proves I never actually read anything! Quote
geofferz Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Not tried one of these myself but a medic who stayed with us during this years TT had one on his bike, doesn't stop the bike being nicked but potentially helps find it if it is, I think it also sends you a text message if the bike is moved? I looked at it when he was here and it seemed to be pretty effective with no annual subscription charge.https://monimoto.co.uk/?_ga=2.130907466.41762124.1568632652-1462968911.1568632652 £36 annual subscription Just proves I never actually read anything! Yeah that's why I always add ketchup to them! Quote
raesewell Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 My wife and I are touring at the moment, we are in Arenzano Italy having travelled through France and Switzerland and this is what I useWorks for me, and if I feel the place is safe I might not use it at all.Ride be happy. Quote
Pie man Posted September 16, 2019 Posted September 16, 2019 Each to our own on security, lugging around a big old chain and padlock is not for me. Bike cover and disc-lock usually, and if there are a few of us, sometimes we take a 12mm x 180cm wire strop that gets lashed through the wheels of all the bikes (well at least 4) other than that we usually try to find Hotels with secure parking Quote
raesewell Posted September 17, 2019 Posted September 17, 2019 I don't carry a chain and the lock you see in the picture fits under the seat and I forget it's there most of the time. Quote
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