rightstuff Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 I might be old but new to bikes looking for my first bigger bike only had 125 till now I've been offered a 52 plate honda cb600 hornet it's only done 950 miles and looks like new the owner never used it preferred his car then a few years ago he died so his wife is selling it always been garaged all the paperwork in order it doesn't start so will need a new battery is it worth a punt or do I leave it not actually seen it yet she is looking at £1550 a bit of advice please Quote
Six30 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 go for it , ideal first bigger bike , with them miles and if its like new its not out the way money wise, if you kept it for a year then sold it you'd get your money back and some Quote
Ian Frog Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 go for it , ideal first bigger bike , with them miles and if its like new its not out the way money wise, if you kept it for a year then sold it you'd get your money back and some Spot on advice.The kind of things that suffer from storage of that duration (providing it was dry?) can be easily sorted and still give you a great first bike and a potential profit if you decide after a year it`s not for you.CheersIan Quote
M620 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 go for it , ideal first bigger bike , with them miles and if its like new its not out the way money wise, if you kept it for a year then sold it you'd get your money back and some Spot on advice.The kind of things that suffer from storage of that duration (providing it was dry?) can be easily sorted and still give you a great first bike and a potential profit if you decide after a year it`s not for you.CheersIan Hornets are not a bad buy but if only 950 miles it’s true, and it’s not been used for years there could be a lot of expense to factor in to recommission it (unless that’s already been done and included in the price).Some years ago I was practically given a CBF 1000 that had been “stored” in similar circumstances. Just as a guide it needed the carburettors removed, ultrasonic cleaning and rebuilding and a new battery just to get it to run. Professional set up and balance of the refurbished carbs and oil service just to get it fit for taking for an mot. The tyres had deteriorated with the prolonged storage and also required two new tyres for the mot. Quote
Stu Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 Buy it! spend £500 getting it sorted ie tyres and a good service and you would have a decent bike still at a decent price Quote
rightstuff Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 is it just cracking on the tyres I'd be looking for could I clean the carbs myself or is it a specialized job I suppose best go and have a look stick a battery on it or give it a jump stick some juice in it and see what happens Quote
Ian Frog Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 is it just cracking on the tyres I'd be looking for could I clean the carbs myself or is it a specialized job I suppose best go and have a look stick a battery on it or give it a jump stick some juice in it and see what happens For what its worth before attempting to start it I would see if you can check that the old fuel supply was turned off whilst in storage and if possible remove the old (possibly stale and rank) fuel.Also worth turning over using a spanner on the crank to check there is no kind of "locking" and no feelings of things coming into contact.Good luck with it they have a good reputation for reliability and I am sure you will be fine.CheersIan Quote
fastbob Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 is it just cracking on the tyres I'd be looking for could I clean the carbs myself or is it a specialized job I suppose best go and have a look stick a battery on it or give it a jump stick some juice in it and see what happens I wouldn't do that at all on a bike that has been standing for a long time . At the very least I'd take the plugs out , stick some oil thinned with petrol down the holes and then hand turn the engine to ensure it moves freely . Next job would be to run some injector cleaner through the fuel system ( not my area of expertise ) or possibly prime the fuel pump . I'll leave the details to those who have worked with EFI bikes . All I'm saying is that you could do a lot of damage in a few seconds if you just stick a battery in it and hit the button . Quote
M620 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 is it just cracking on the tyres I'd be looking for could I clean the carbs myself or is it a specialized job I suppose best go and have a look stick a battery on it or give it a jump stick some juice in it and see what happens You could do that but agree with what fastbob said, my advice would be take a friend who has some experience of recommissioning old motor vehicles with you. Quote
Six30 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 just bid her a grand for it , get someone with a van to get it for you, then mess about with it when you get it home Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 What a cracking offer. Go for it, just do the common sense recommissioning as above. Lucky chap. Quote
M620 Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 just bid her a grand for it , get someone with a van to get it for you, then mess about with it when you get it home Best advice yet - go for it Quote
rightstuff Posted January 19, 2020 Author Posted January 19, 2020 well I've gone for it still haven't seen it but getting to me on Friday it's my wife's bosses daughter that's selling it know him well so won't be caught will have a play in the garage with it next weekend and see what happens can't wait now till next weekend just one last question is it worth getting one of them lion batteries or stick with the normal lead acid whats your thoughts Quote
sparkpaintersuk Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 go for it , ideal first bigger bike , with them miles and if its like new its not out the way money wise, if you kept it for a year then sold it you'd get your money back and some Great advice this is. Quote
TimR Posted January 19, 2020 Posted January 19, 2020 1 where do you live . If being used anywhere in london check that its allowed into the ulez/lez zones2.tyres are recommended to be changed if 8yrs old Quote
rightstuff Posted January 23, 2020 Author Posted January 23, 2020 Arrived home last night and the hornet had been delivered 903 miles on the clock not bad for a 50 plate better than I expected absolutely pristine not a mark on it just a bit of dust got the battery off put on charge will leave it now can't see battery coming up but day off tomorrow will get a new one and see what happens got to get my test done now Feb 3rd happy days Quote
rightstuff Posted January 23, 2020 Author Posted January 23, 2020 Should read 52 plate spellchecker again Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Arrived home last night and the hornet had been delivered 903 miles on the clock not bad for a 50 plate better than I expected absolutely pristine not a mark on it just a bit of dust got the battery off put on charge will leave it now can't see battery coming up but day off tomorrow will get a new one and see what happens got to get my test done now Feb 3rd happy days Sounds good. If the battery was totally dead it may be toast. But really flat batteries won't take a charge on a standard charger. Check the voltage first. If it's below 12v then you need to first prime the battery using a very low input - I use a 500Ma gel cell charger. Once the battery has risen back to 12v it can go back on the standard charger. Quote
rightstuff Posted January 23, 2020 Author Posted January 23, 2020 Pretty sure the battery won't come up but you never know might be lucky it is on a small smart charger just want to see if it starts rocked it last night in gear all turning over Quote
Guest Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 I would change oil and filter before attempting to start......what's in there now will be really bad! Quote
rightstuff Posted January 23, 2020 Author Posted January 23, 2020 Will get a filter in the morning not sure what oil it takes will try and find out got some 10 30 fully synthetic in doors might do Quote
Mississippi Bullfrog Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Will get a filter in the morning not sure what oil it takes will try and find out got some 10 30 fully synthetic in doors might do Check the oil as decent car oils have friction enhancers that don't do bike clutches any favours. Motorbike specific oils don't or cheaper car oils can be used in some cases. Quote
The Hitcher Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 1 where do you live . If being used anywhere in london check that its allowed into the ulez/lez zones2.tyres are recommended to be changed if 8yrs old I was speaking to a friend about the ULEZ thing and bikes, turns out you can pay to individually have a bike tested to exempt it from the charge and as they measure NoX bikes should mostly be fine, I will let you know how he gets on as hes got a 90s Kawasaki. Quote
elwon20 Posted January 23, 2020 Posted January 23, 2020 Most of this has been said but here's what I'd do:1: pop a drop of fresh oil in the cylinder, take a look at the spark plug while you're at it.2: Make sure it turns using a spanner3: Drain fuel and oil. 4: Replace fuel filter, flush fuel lines & carbs etc. Controversial but pop in some redex with the fresh fuel. It works wonders on gummed up fuel lines. Make sure your fuel tank breather hose(s) aren't blocked!5: Replace the battery6: See if she starts7: If not diagnose and fix8: Drain and replace all other fluids, don't forget the brakes. Check the brake calliper seals while you're down there, I'd probably replace them regardless.9: Grease moving parts, replace tyres.10: Tax/MOT/Ride/EnjoyKeep a close eye on your fork/shock seals.I recon you've got yourself a bit of a bargain there. I'm excited for you and just a little bit jelly Quote
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