Bike chock / storage issue.

[Shepherd]

 

 

Long winded I'm afraid... sorry.

 

 I have a possible dry place to store my bike , having cleared some space in the front garden, and was wondering if this item is the answer to a problem that I will have ...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/vidaXL-Motorcycle-Powder-Coated-Quality/dp/B010P2KP20/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2NOKQZ1KDGOXN&dchild=1&keywords=motorcycle+chock+stand&qid=1611135167&spref

 

The storage area is only around 5' high, and only just long enough to get my bike in (Deauville - big/heavy beast). Imagine an flat roof shed,but cut down by a third. I should be able to ride in, by ducking behind the screen,  but getting the heavy bike out will be a problem as I'll not be able to stand up. 

Will I be able to just pull it out of the chock from the back of the bike, do you think? Is the chock strong enough to hold the bike up without support?

I suppose I'm trying to achieve similar to the 'secure-a-bike' sheds with the rolling floor, but on the cheap!

I don't have the option to raise the height anymore, it's gonna look ugly enough as it is.

I've considered a sliding roof, like the stargazers have for their scopes, but the runners are stupidly expensive, and I don't think I'm clever enough to have a lift up roof with gas piston assistance.

 

Thanks for reading my waffle ...

Edited January 20, 2021 by Shepherd

[dynax]

If you have a straight through floor this might be a better option, you can ride onto it outside the shed and push it in, and just pull it out when needed

 

[Shepherd]

Thanks dynax, I saw them.

Unfortunately have a small step to get in , and a pavement to cross with the dropped kerb still too high for the trolley wheels to get over.

[dynax]

Can you post a photo of what obstructions you have to overcome, it will be easier to find a solution if I could visually see what you need

[husoi]

the steps bit you can just make a small ramp(s) that you can place and remove when needed.

[onesea]

Is there a slight slope involved? 
If there is slope up to get in it will roll out easy, if slope is other way back it in and ride out.   
Even the slightest slope is a big advantage.

My first thought was hinge the roof. you could make it light enough you don't need gas struts.
Polycarbonate sheet, waterproof and you could give it slight slope to drain water, if you don't want sun on the bike coloured wrap would is cheap enough.

If your doing it on a budget get some old pallets use hit and miss fence panels on the sides, plenty of ventilation which is also good for the bike.

I have seen it done on FB a few years back.

[Shepherd]

5 hours ago, dynax said:

Can you post a photo of what obstructions you have to overcome, it will be easier to find a solution if I could visually see what you need

 

Thanks for the replies,  I'll take a photo tomorrow - as a picture speaks a thousand words, apparently 

onesea's fence panel idea mayideaa way to go too .

[skyrider]

1 minute ago, Shepherd said:

 

Thanks for the replies,  I'll take a photo tomorrow - as a picture speaks a thousand words, apparently 

onesea's fence panel idea mayideaa way to go too .

right it does we will be able to see more what we are looking at  

[TimR]

I would not recommend trying to load/unload the bike solely off the rear of bike as there will be a risk of the steering turning and you will have no control .

Plus it takes a bit of effort to roll bike in and a push forward/bounce pull back to pull bike out ..

[Shepherd]

I think the trolley @dynax showed will be the answer, I should be able to lay a little more concrete/screed mix to bring the outside bit up to the door level. It should fit on the pavement without dropping over kerb, I'll check measure shortly.

I was rather hoping to be able to wheel it straight in though 

It may have half a roof fixed, with the other half hinged  - if I can work out how, without a centre support.

 

The Wife is hopping mad that the 'wheelie bin' store has grown in to one of my projects 

 

[onesea]

Others might tell me I am  wrong or better ways but can you get your hands on a grinder?

it might take an hour or so but you could probably grind That cement to make it a gentle slope. 

if your struggling to push it in on a trolly you could always fit ground anchor and 2-1 pulley system and haul it in Or an electric winch...

 

Edited January 21, 2021 by onesea
To add shed looks good.

[husoi]

7 minutes ago, onesea said:

Others might tell me I am  wrong or better ways but can you get your hands on a grinder?

it might take an hour or so but you could probably grind That cement to make it a gentle slope. 

if your struggling to push it in on a trolly you could always fit ground anchor and 2-1 pulley system and haul it in Or an electric winch...

 

Sorry @onesea but using a grinder to smooth the concrete floor would maybe be allowed in East Asia but you would be breaking around 20 H&S rules.

There are tools you can hire for that purpose. 

https://www.nationaltoolhireshops.co.uk/product/pg280-floor-grinder-hire/

 

Although a grinder can be used with heady duty PPE and dedicated disk the above is safer  

https://www.hss.com/hire/p/aggressor-grinder-230mm-and-blade

[dynax]

4 minutes ago, husoi said:

Sorry @onesea but using a grinder to smooth the concrete floor would maybe be allowed in East Asia but you would be breaking around 20 H&S rules.

There are tools you can hire for that purpose. 

https://www.nationaltoolhireshops.co.uk/product/pg280-floor-grinder-hire/

 

Although a grinder can be used with heady duty PPE and dedicated disk the above is safer  

https://www.hss.com/hire/p/aggressor-grinder-230mm-and-blade

H&S rules very seldom apply to DIY, yes some stuff is unlawful but H&S has no interest in DIY enviroments.

 

 

[husoi]

Read H&S rules as sensible selfcare...

 

[dynax]

If going for a dolly like the one I pictured, get some replacement castors, you can get bigger castors that will cope better with the rougher concrete, and will be easier to move around. I would opt for 5" castors, I use a company on ebay called castors online, I will see if I can dig out a link to them, very reasonable good quality and quick delivery times usually, maybe slower than normal under the circumstances.

[dynax]

4 minutes ago, husoi said:

Read H&S rules as sensible selfcare...

 

Does not apply to people doing DIY. H&S has never applied to people doing DIY.

[husoi]

Just now, dynax said:

Does not apply to people doing DIY. H&S has never applied to people doing DIY.

True, but be sensible should  

[dynax]

Just now, husoi said:

True, but be sensible should  

Yes being sensible is being sensible, but no rules will be broken if you're not.

[husoi]

Just now, dynax said:

Yes being sensible is being sensible, but no rules will be broken if you're not.

Except intelligence rules 

[skyrider]

1 hour ago, Shepherd said:

I think the trolley @dynax showed will be the answer, I should be able to lay a little more concrete/screed mix to bring the outside bit up to the door level. It should fit on the pavement without dropping over kerb, I'll check measure shortly.

I was rather hoping to be able to wheel it straight in though 

It may have half a roof fixed, with the other half hinged  - if I can work out how, without a centre support.

 

The Wife is hopping mad that the 'wheelie bin' store has grown in to one of my projects 

 

so that means a month of cold lunches 

[dynax]

Sorry it's not castors online though I have used them, the one I use are Atlas handling.

Something like these would be ideal, not sure if they have a 5" option and you would probably need a single, but these are rated at 600kg so well within weight handling capacity at a decent price.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Braked-castors-blue-Rubber-Synthetic-non-marking-braked-100mm-castors/122304172912?hash=item1c79e59370:g:3ecAAOSwMuBcklN6

[husoi]

If you're looking for heavy duty castors try these guys

https://www.bearingboys.co.uk/

[onesea]

Having seen the price of a floor grinder and being budget minded.

 

another option could be some big masonry drills and hammer and chisel break down the front half of the cement.  By eye there is not that much volume.

Then relay with new cement up to the level of the entrance.

 

Of course done at own risk, sensible safety procedures being followed...

 

if you decide to go down caster route can I suggest pneumatic, they are so much easier to push over small lumps, but again its budget, It may also be height.

[Bender]

If your just on about the little lips shutter it and exterior leveling compound or mix your own cement, it has a solid Base so a few mm should be fine for what your doing, I have a couple off mm skim on our drive that was just excess from mixing stuff for other things, I can't chisel the stuff off withstands vans and land-rover.

[skyrider]

1 hour ago, onesea said:

Having seen the price of a floor grinder and being budget minded.

 

another option could be some big masonry drills and hammer and chisel break down the front half of the cement.  By eye there is not that much volume.

Then relay with new cement up to the level of the entrance.

 

Of course done at own risk, sensible safety procedures being followed...

 

if you decide to go down caster route can I suggest pneumatic, they are so much easier to push over small lumps, but again its budget, It may also be height.

you could always use a kango to chisel the drive